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Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
52. Science!
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 06:17 PM
Apr 2014

I'm not saying that GMO is bad. In fact there are many cases where GMO is great. The genetic modification of bacteria in the production of insulin has been a god send to diabetics.

"There is no peer-reviewed research suggesting that GMO crops are having any harmful impact on our environment, and no plausible scientific theories indicating that our current GMO activities will lead to anything harmful." an absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence.

There have been studies, they have been peer reviewed, however the issue is that there are no long term studies. Despite the widespread use of GMOs by many countries, the need for biosafety research should be a concern. Unfortunately, lack of stringent standards, international harmonization, and transparency, as well as remaining claims of confidentiality on biosafety-relevant data places additional burdens on regulatory agencies. If I modify a tomato today, and the FDA rules it safe, does that mean that every modified tomato I grow will be safe to grow in all environments and conditions?

We all know that plants grow differently in different environments. Soil, sun, and rain make a huge difference in how a plant will react in its environment. Just look at the mighty grape in France. A pinot noir grape can make for a good wine. I prefer Bourgogne. The geology and climate make a big difference in the make up of that grape.

So would my tomato, that was modified here in the US and grown in New Jersey soil (best for tomatoes... sorry Sacramento), and given the seal of approval by the government, be absolutely safe to grow in other regions, with different soil compositions, and climates? Would that tomato be guaranteed to no have any adverse complications on the ecosystems in which it is planted?

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# 5 is actually true in that most crop seeds are the result of plant breeding. yellowcanine Apr 2014 #1
So start using the term. Atman Apr 2014 #16
That's why I've tried to purge my vocabulary of the word "Believe" and its variants. hootinholler Apr 2014 #32
A good practice, and harder than one would think bhikkhu Apr 2014 #66
I suppose the result of the standard hybridization process Raksha Apr 2014 #39
And an important truth: pnwmom Apr 2014 #2
Myth #1 .... MindMover Apr 2014 #3
Why wouldn't they be safe? nt Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #4
Because evil. Duh. Orrex Apr 2014 #9
Good point. I need to start hecking ingredients for 'Pure Evil' nt Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #14
+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB Apr 2014 #18
So, you're saying that all those countries with anti-gay legislation are right? HuckleB Apr 2014 #19
Is this Mike ... LOL .... MindMover Apr 2014 #20
Well, I do enjoy dousing a good logical fallacy. HuckleB Apr 2014 #21
Are you one of the farmers who gets maybe sometimes 8-10% ... MindMover Apr 2014 #23
Hmm. You're making up stats now? HuckleB Apr 2014 #36
Making up ... no, I do not make up .... I research and corroborate and verify ... MindMover Apr 2014 #37
No, you don't. HuckleB Apr 2014 #38
Well, he has 310 friends .... I have more than that on FB .... MindMover Apr 2014 #41
I'm sorry that honesty is not your thing. HuckleB Apr 2014 #43
LOL ... your comebacks are getting weaker .... MindMover Apr 2014 #44
Awwwwwwwwwww. HuckleB Apr 2014 #45
I have two problems with GMOs MohRokTah Apr 2014 #5
Bt is certified for organic crops.... mike_c Apr 2014 #42
When used as a natural addition to the soil. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #47
Bt is not typically used "as a natural addition to the soil" in organic farming.... mike_c Apr 2014 #51
I use it on my lawn to control grubs. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #53
ah-- that's actually a somewhat different matter than crop applications.... mike_c Apr 2014 #59
Again, this has little to do with potential long term risk of consuming GMO food. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #62
Nice flame bait. KurtNYC Apr 2014 #6
The use of GMO seeds has several problems - hedgehog Apr 2014 #7
re: your last sentence laundry_queen Apr 2014 #12
The link you provided ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #25
Check out the date - this has been documented since 1999! hedgehog Apr 2014 #29
beyond debunked.... mike_c Apr 2014 #48
Open letter to EU chief science advisor from Dr. Brian John: GMO safety claims are a "lie" proverbialwisdom Apr 2014 #8
Thanks for the link...National Petroleum Radio WhiteTara Apr 2014 #10
Not sure about that guy laundry_queen Apr 2014 #11
Isn't the oposition to GMO woo anyways? n/t dilby Apr 2014 #13
For the most part, yes. HuckleB Apr 2014 #17
This bit busts a few more GMO myths. HuckleB Apr 2014 #15
I view this much like the "Climate change" debate. Atman Apr 2014 #22
GMOs have helped feed starving people. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #24
Cheetos have helped feed starving forum posters. Atman Apr 2014 #26
There is no replacement being offered. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #27
And that is the business model. Right? Atman Apr 2014 #30
The difference between the GMO debate and the Climate Change debate: "Science!" Xithras Apr 2014 #33
+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB Apr 2014 #49
Science! Glassunion Apr 2014 #52
The scientific method does not "prove" negatives. Example: "Prove creationism wrong." Xithras Apr 2014 #64
The scientific method is utilized to demonstrate there are no observable long term risks, however. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #67
You're missing my point. Glassunion Apr 2014 #69
You have this backwards. HuckleB Apr 2014 #46
The biggest myth is that NPR is "liberal". Faryn Balyncd Apr 2014 #28
^^ +1000 Atman Apr 2014 #31
#4 was and remains true in poorer countries dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #34
David vs. Monsanto Whisp Apr 2014 #35
Mercola!!!!! HuckleB Apr 2014 #40
From the article... FiveGoodMen Apr 2014 #50
Links? Proof? (And not from the usual anti-GMO goofballs.) HuckleB Apr 2014 #54
As I said, from the article linked in the OP... FiveGoodMen Apr 2014 #55
So, you have nothing. Got it. Thanks. HuckleB Apr 2014 #57
Percy Schmeiser is not a goofball. Whisp Apr 2014 #56
Yes, he is, as is anything posted on Mercola. HuckleB Apr 2014 #58
Well I saw that 'fiction' Percy Schmeister telling his story a few years back. Whisp Apr 2014 #60
No kidding. laundry_queen Apr 2014 #65
Monoculture, high intensity pesticide, herbicide, and synthetic fertilizer use all blow chunks. hunter Apr 2014 #61
Then there should be no issue with labeling. jazzimov Apr 2014 #63
I think you touch on part of the problem with labeling. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #71
Each one of the five are deceptive. I find the article awful, clearly not journalism. For wiggs Apr 2014 #68
I've seen arguments based around sterility, ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #70
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