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mike_c

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59. ah-- that's actually a somewhat different matter than crop applications....

Tue Apr 15, 2014, 06:35 PM

Apr 2014

Bt strains are target pest specific, so the Bt used to control grubs in lawn care is not the same strain of Bt used to control most crop pests, which are (mostly) lepidopteran caterpillars. Grubs are coleopteran (beetle) larvae, and the Bt applied to control them has little impact on most leaf and stem pests. That's one of the good things about Bt-- it is not at all broad spectrum.

It's interesting that you've chosen Bt. Milky spore-- a different Bacillus species than Bt-- is the more usual choice for lawn grub bio-control. Milky spore usually has longer residual effects, although Bt in soil does last considerably longer than Bt exposed to sunlight on above-ground plant tissues.

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Bt is certified for organic crops.... mike_c Apr 2014 #42

When used as a natural addition to the soil. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #47

Bt is not typically used "as a natural addition to the soil" in organic farming.... mike_c Apr 2014 #51

I use it on my lawn to control grubs. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #53

ah-- that's actually a somewhat different matter than crop applications.... mike_c Apr 2014 #59

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