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oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
109. That's exactly what I was illustrating
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 09:16 PM
Apr 2014

To you, it's a fact, because the vast majority of scientists seem to agree, and you trust or believe them.

To me, it's a very widely accepted theory. To be a fact to me, I would need to see evidence that I trust. Sure, those 97% of scientists have lots of evidence and peer reviewed studies. But I don't yet trust them or the evidence that they use. So, to me, it's not a "fact." I'm not sure I will ever believe one way or the other.

That's why we have differing opinions as to the facts. (And, of course, anyone who doesn't think a I do is wrong.)

like the birth certificate crap JI7 Apr 2014 #1
Or Jesus riding dinosaurs. ErikJ Apr 2014 #99
Oh yeah, because MOST of us believe that, right?..It's featured at Harvard whathehell Apr 2014 #132
Or many liberals and nuclear power. fbc Apr 2014 #115
No Enthusiast Apr 2014 #125
Just because someone sides with conservatives on a single issue like nuclear power... kristopher Apr 2014 #127
DU is full of paid RW sockpuppets. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #128
Unbelieving Is Hard cantbeserious Apr 2014 #2
Esp when some people haven't reached the age Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2014 #65
Yeah, but that's just science. I don't buy it. postulater Apr 2014 #3
My opinion is as valid as your facts. DetlefK Apr 2014 #5
The study speaks of a "human tendency"..it says nothing about Americans whathehell Apr 2014 #135
It's important to teach critical thinking skills to people when they're young. eShirl Apr 2014 #4
The only way we can solve Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #7
And if the problem is The2ndWheel Apr 2014 #11
Then I suggest we read Shakespeare again Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #12
Bullshit! Orrex Apr 2014 #6
Orrex....... Nay Apr 2014 #24
You beat me to it. LOL. GoneFishin Apr 2014 #31
The study never MENTIONS Americans..It talks about a "human tendency". whathehell Apr 2014 #87
Well. You certainly told me. Orrex Apr 2014 #88
I'm simply pointing out the facts.. whathehell Apr 2014 #90
But I didn't express an opinion one way or the other. Orrex Apr 2014 #91
Actually, you did.. whathehell Apr 2014 #93
Ah. Orrex Apr 2014 #94
I really enjoyed this subthread! IronLionZion Apr 2014 #105
Ah whathehell Apr 2014 #131
So, confronted with the fact that it's not that important to me... Orrex Apr 2014 #138
Um, no..You see, a possibility you don't seem to have entertained is whathehell Apr 2014 #146
Yet you continue to post replies to address my unimportant reaction. Orrex Apr 2014 #147
As you do mine... whathehell Apr 2014 #148
But I didn't insult you by questioning your importance Orrex Apr 2014 #150
No, you insulted me by labeling me whathehell Apr 2014 #152
Blame my phone for its profoujd typos Orrex Apr 2014 #153
Whatever, bro.. whathehell Apr 2014 #154
So how did you do the staircase of shrugs in #91? Would love to know progree Apr 2014 #124
Simple. I tilted my phone 45° while typing Orrex Apr 2014 #137
In other words, propaganda works n2doc Apr 2014 #8
Not necessarily. OnyxCollie Apr 2014 #121
"The best argument against democracy sailfla Apr 2014 #9
The best argument against democracy... JackRiddler Apr 2014 #29
Plus one! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #126
Fake quote. And is a nation better off WITHOUT a vote? nt alp227 Apr 2014 #83
the second best argument shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #123
Thank you...It's important to note that the OP's headline is misleading, as whathehell Apr 2014 #133
Excellent article, thanks for posting. madaboutharry Apr 2014 #10
It might be, but the subject line is entirely misleading..It says nothing about "Americans", only whathehell Apr 2014 #92
The study shows a Human tendency to reject facts, not an "American" one.. whathehell Apr 2014 #13
Wrong....All the studies were on Americans Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #14
None of this implies it's limited to Americans mythology Apr 2014 #16
A perfectly reasonable hypothethis, and further studies could be done controlled for nationality. eShirl Apr 2014 #20
Further studies could be done controlled for nationality, but as they have NOT been, whathehell Apr 2014 #134
Do your own study to Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #23
It's basic human psychology. You think you are exempt? KittyWampus Apr 2014 #34
Thank you Ms Science Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #37
No. It really is basic psychology. And it includes everyone. Look Up- Confirmation Bias KittyWampus Apr 2014 #40
Yes resistance is there Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #43
No, but it's not just limited to Americans. Lex Apr 2014 #61
So this is side thread Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #62
Your post proves the point about Confirmation Bias. Lex Apr 2014 #63
Seems somewhat petulant to ask that after replying with "Ms Science" LanternWaste Apr 2014 #78
The irony neffernin Apr 2014 #118
Your subject line is MISLEADING and you know it..The study says zero about Americans whathehell Apr 2014 #136
This subthread illustrates a big part of the problem - what's a fact? oldhippie Apr 2014 #50
I'm trusting the scientific process naturallyselected Apr 2014 #103
That's exactly what I was illustrating oldhippie Apr 2014 #109
From the standpoint of Exxon or the Koch brothers pscot Apr 2014 #111
Really? oldhippie Apr 2014 #112
Your position is that of a "climate change denier" kristopher Apr 2014 #129
Hey, it's my buddy kristopher ...... oldhippie Apr 2014 #139
The position is what the position is. kristopher Apr 2014 #140
Obstruct action? oldhippie Apr 2014 #141
You wrote the words, you own the position. kristopher Apr 2014 #142
Bye now .... oldhippie Apr 2014 #143
+1 kristopher Apr 2014 #145
Why are you being so rude? Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #81
The thing is, occasionally a study will find an assumption to be incorrect against all common sense. eShirl Apr 2014 #52
The excerpt you quote in the OP says this: Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #45
Alert on me then Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #46
Thus illustrating the point you're making in the OP. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #73
There are stupid Russians, South Koreans, French, South Africans, snooper2 Apr 2014 #54
As is the thread you nominated. Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #58
That was out of the blue.. snooper2 Apr 2014 #64
IN my travels I find Americans are about the least believers in conspiracy AngryAmish Apr 2014 #89
That's intriguing. If I were to produce a study from elsewhere, would that reinforce your belief? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #70
Her "assertions" are the simple facts of how a study is properly done, duh. whathehell Apr 2014 #149
News in the US besides the internet Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #30
Thank you. The study says NOTHING about "Americans" -- It speaks only of a human tendency whathehell Apr 2014 #84
Don't know much about research, do you?..Unless the study used 'control' groups of other ethnicities whathehell Apr 2014 #67
It is indeed very possible that this is a human trait and not specifically American gollygee Apr 2014 #25
Exactly, and I would disagree with the notion that whathehell Apr 2014 #71
absolutely florida08 Apr 2014 #15
Fact or fiction Augiedog Apr 2014 #17
We receive too much information and don't have the time to sort it all out. A Simple Game Apr 2014 #18
With Corporate control over the media, except the internet, truedelphi Apr 2014 #82
Fox News has made a living out of this NewJeffCT Apr 2014 #19
I think you are far to narrow in your perspective ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #21
Report speaks to many here miyazaki Apr 2014 #22
Especially the climate doomers..... AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #97
Advertisers discovered this decades ago el_bryanto Apr 2014 #26
Sigmund Freud's cousin Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #32
I was thinking about the Man in the Hathaway Shirt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #38
Then the only thing I can think of to correct this... Neoma Apr 2014 #27
It is a human (not just American) trait (perhaps a weakness). NRaleighLiberal Apr 2014 #28
I suspect it is a function of biological intellect... Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #53
This applies to you as well. It applies to me. It applies to everyone. KittyWampus Apr 2014 #33
I accept your call out....give me a link Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #35
Call Out? LOL! It's a basic human condition. We all do it. It's called "Confirmation Bias". KittyWampus Apr 2014 #41
You said I was guilty of it Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #44
You are doing an excellent job proving it yourself. KittyWampus Apr 2014 #51
It is kind of delicious how he's illustrating Confirmation Bias Lex Apr 2014 #75
So true...And it's pretty apparent pipi_k Apr 2014 #56
After we rise up and force them to enact campaign finance reform and publicly funded elections Dustlawyer Apr 2014 #36
The Comcast merger is very dangerous Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #39
Religious faith is the root of the problem. tridim Apr 2014 #42
Maybe... pipi_k Apr 2014 #57
Agree with this and it applies to more than just Americans maddezmom Apr 2014 #47
I found this to be decidely true LondonReign2 Apr 2014 #48
This is definitely true... nyabingi Apr 2014 #49
We use the phrase "...but I could be wrong" a lot in my immediate family. factsarenotfair Apr 2014 #55
I think that phrase pipi_k Apr 2014 #60
:) It does work wonders in my family! factsarenotfair Apr 2014 #76
It's a human psychology trait, not just Americans. Lex Apr 2014 #59
The Agencies have been studying this for a long time hootinholler Apr 2014 #66
I'm always right ...except when I'm wrong ...but we won't go there. L0oniX Apr 2014 #68
Mistakes were made....but not by me! YoungDemCA Apr 2014 #69
Trayvon Martin, anyone? Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #72
OH BOY.... another study for the gullible! whistler162 Apr 2014 #74
Most Americans are fully conditioned propaganda responders Corruption Inc Apr 2014 #77
More than others?...You'll have to prove that because this study does not and doesn't even try to whathehell Apr 2014 #85
I guess you missed the part about "cognitive dissonance" Corruption Inc Apr 2014 #104
I guess whathehell Apr 2014 #130
I reached that conclusion a while ago. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #79
You can't fix stupid n/t albino65 Apr 2014 #80
Will Rogers once said florida08 Apr 2014 #86
That about sums it up. mountain grammy Apr 2014 #114
The problem is that most misinformed people rarely pay any consequence at all... MrScorpio Apr 2014 #95
This may definitely be true for some, factually speaking..... AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #96
There are those that don't want to think. They want to be told. Thor_MN Apr 2014 #98
DU, unfortunately, is void of science based posters, anymore. HuckleB Apr 2014 #100
I have even had that happen years ago here on DU bluestateguy Apr 2014 #101
especially when it comes to saying women are as human as men? MisterP Apr 2014 #102
See what you want to see. Hear what you want to hear. A trick as old as time itself. blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #106
And that is why critical thinking skills are so desperately needed. Rex Apr 2014 #107
One of the many reasons why the RW has used polarization as a central strategy since wiggs Apr 2014 #108
There is plenty of incentive for paying attention to facts. JEFF9K Apr 2014 #110
Which is what we in the states call "Fox News". Initech Apr 2014 #113
Rigid Thinkers Can Become Bellicose, Belligerent Bullies . . . cer7711 Apr 2014 #116
So I noticed. I used to know someone like this before he died. n/t deafskeptic Apr 2014 #119
Republicans have know this for YEARS.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #117
A good example of how data gained from a study can be used as hyperbole... yawnmaster Apr 2014 #120
That kind of cuts both ways, doesn't it? ucrdem Apr 2014 #122
this is not a purely american phenomenon. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #144
This piece covers the issue very well: The Science of Why We Don't Believe Science. HuckleB Apr 2014 #151
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