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Nye Bevan

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27. Note to DU feminists: don't feel like you have to defend this crap.

Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:01 PM

Apr 2014

Instead of twisting yourselves into knots to defend something that obviously is untrue, you can say something like "well, yes, certainly there is much very unpleasant sexism in the UK, but obviously we disagree that the UK is the worst country in the world in this regard, given the treatment of women in the Middle East, for example". And nobody will think that you are "betraying the cause".

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UN: Britain's sexism more 'pervasive' than any other country [View all] boston bean Apr 2014 OP

So like... including the countries where girls are stoned to death LittleBlue Apr 2014 #1

good example of the difference between sexism and misogyny seabeyond Apr 2014 #2

FYI for people replying to this article LittleBlue Apr 2014 #6

former Conservative health minister Edwina Currie who said: seabeyond Apr 2014 #7

You don't read British newspapers much, do you? LittleBlue Apr 2014 #8

the leaning of the newspaper has nothing to do with what the woman stated. seabeyond Apr 2014 #58

Kinda illustrates the silliness doesn't it. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #12

Or where women are held captive for ten years and forced to bear their rapists children? ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #21

That's illegal and not accepted, and there is the difference. nt LittleBlue Apr 2014 #24

Thank God nt ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #25

Not accepted by the vast majority, perhaps. But there are those who tend to minimize nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #38

I'm assuming they mean out of Europe, or the "Western" world generally. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #35

Oh give me a break. There are many countries in Africa and the middle east where women are quinnox Apr 2014 #3

again. another man making a very good show of the difference between sexism and misogyny. seabeyond Apr 2014 #5

Slavery exists here too BainsBane Apr 2014 #11

This is incorrect... Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #16

I said consumers BainsBane Apr 2014 #17

it is also the country where the boldest, loudest young feminists are coming from also. i think the seabeyond Apr 2014 #4

any other country? Sorry but that seems to be a stretch. maddezmom Apr 2014 #9

Yet Brazil also has a woman President BainsBane Apr 2014 #15

So what? maddezmom Apr 2014 #19

Yes, I did comment on the article you linked to BainsBane Apr 2014 #30

Good. maddezmom Apr 2014 #33

People in the thread seem to be confusing "more pervasive" with "worse" gollygee Apr 2014 #10

Okay, could you explain it? maddezmom Apr 2014 #13

Neither would be close to correct, unless one excludes systemic and legal discrimination. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #18

WARNING TO DUers: DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SPLIT HAIRS LIKE THIS AT HOME. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #23

Not splitting hairs - they're completely different things. gollygee Apr 2014 #57

Idea: Let's poll Chinese girls to see how they feel about western sexism! nt Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #14

What is that supposed to mean? BainsBane Apr 2014 #40

Interesting. From the article: The Straight Story Apr 2014 #20

I wouldn't say porn in general is the problem. More the proliferation of especially nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #39

Well, that's not confusing or anything.... The Straight Story Apr 2014 #45

I think you're oversimplifying things quite a bit, though. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #49

Yes, even though women are not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia, the UK is much worse. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #22

Where does it say she'd been to Iran or Saudi Arabia? nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #43

My immediate thought when I read this polly7 Apr 2014 #26

Indeed, considering this from today: The Straight Story Apr 2014 #28

And I'm sure I could find you news stories of schoolgirls being kidnapped all over the U.S. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #44

The only thing I am belitting here is the claim made The Straight Story Apr 2014 #48

I agree with that, on a base level. But we should still be careful not to dismiss even nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #50

Note to DU feminists: don't feel like you have to defend this crap. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #27

Indeed, sexism (and racism, classism, etc) exists in all countries to some degree The Straight Story Apr 2014 #29

I just untrashed it ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #31

Ultimately I think that is what this is about BainsBane Apr 2014 #37

Why is it obviously untrue? BainsBane Apr 2014 #32

That post is just so wrong on so many levels, Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #34

They're confused ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #36

Hmmmm. Why would that be you suppose? The Straight Story Apr 2014 #42

I think you're focusing too much on one little thing. The swimsuit cover isn't bad by itself nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #46

Leave me out of that crap ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #51

I wasn't referring to you (nt) The Straight Story Apr 2014 #55

Question for those who so object to this article BainsBane Apr 2014 #41

Yes, kiva Apr 2014 #54

I think it's an issue of different manifestations of sexism BainsBane Apr 2014 #56

I agree that cultures exhibit kiva Apr 2014 #60

than any other country SHE HAS VISITED La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #47

so i read the BBC version and she wasn't talking about every aspect of british society La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #52

So...One woman experienced this and now it holds true for all countries? Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #53

Sexism manifests in several ways. ananda Apr 2014 #59

Interesting quote from the article: Laelth Jun 2014 #61