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edgineered

(2,101 posts)
30. Looking at how to effectively use that money is a problem in itself.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 01:30 AM
Apr 2014

Although I disapprove strongly with the NRA's (perceived) stance that everyone should have unrestricted access to all types of rifles and guns, I am not in favor of responsible people owning and using them. If the NRA were to acknowledge that there are far too many people in this country who leave weapons around untaught children, or on restaurant benches, or who become easily frustrated and do foolish things, and that some sort of proving yourself to be responsible is a good thing; then people like myself lighten up a bit.

I grew up shooting. I would be out on opening day every year, whether it was putting venison, bird, or small game on the table. Sometimes shooting a couple of bricks a months while walking the trails kept my eye good. I worked a dairy farm in high school for spending money and served three enlistments in the Navy.

To put an honest face on this, we know that someone intent on doing damage is going to do exactly that. If he pounds nails into a baseball bat to make a mace, or slips a cartridge into a pipe the laws are meaningless. I would not be so anti-gun if the NRA would speak in a reasonable voice and acknowledge that there are far too many who should not have weapons, that second amendment rights exist, but first you've got to pass the test for the privilege of owning and keeping one, instead of just being able to rent one at the range where it stays.

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WOW Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #1
Isn't that the definition of Astroturf? Savannahmann Apr 2014 #2
Yes. nt Mojorabbit Apr 2014 #33
This is the first I've heard of Mayors Against Illegal Guns. edgineered Apr 2014 #3
and he will most likely fail bossy22 Apr 2014 #4
Maybe, maybe not. DanTex Apr 2014 #7
support doesnt equal voter intensity bossy22 Apr 2014 #11
Yeah, the idea is to use money to fight the intensity and funding gaps that currently exist. DanTex Apr 2014 #12
Super Duper ditto to that! SoapBox Apr 2014 #43
The devil is in the details, DanTex appal_jack Apr 2014 #29
Well, personally, I think a gun registry would be a good idea. DanTex Apr 2014 #35
The gun lobby is ALEC and the NRA and the upaloopa Apr 2014 #53
Here's the umbrella org Sweet Freedom Apr 2014 #5
Guns are here to stay. Even poll from DUers here support guns! nt Logical Apr 2014 #6
Maybe, but that doesn't mean we can't require background checks for gun purchases. DanTex Apr 2014 #8
Thank you for the rational reminder. Of course, guns are here to stay.. that doesn't mean Cha Apr 2014 #9
Maybe VScott Apr 2014 #10
Who knows. Most Americans also favor licensing and registration. DanTex Apr 2014 #13
We could have had a UBC law last year Jenoch Apr 2014 #17
Actually, it was the GOP that screwed it up. DanTex Apr 2014 #22
I agree, but who will support banning private sales.... Logical Apr 2014 #14
What do you mean "banning"? 90% of Americans will support requiring background checks for them. DanTex Apr 2014 #15
90% mog75 Apr 2014 #16
For example... DanTex Apr 2014 #20
thank you mog75 Apr 2014 #24
I am actually fine with registration also. But stolen guns.... Logical Apr 2014 #26
Not really. DanTex Apr 2014 #27
I doubt it. Criminals get illegal drugs easily. And they are illegal. Guns are 100% legal! Logical Apr 2014 #37
It's not quite that simple. DanTex Apr 2014 #38
Well we can disagree on this..... Logical Apr 2014 #40
I don't know where the 5% figure comes from. DanTex Apr 2014 #41
How when it comes to obtaining them??? Logical Apr 2014 #48
Are you asking how guns and drugs are different? DanTex Apr 2014 #54
In a 1997 prisoner survey..... Logical Apr 2014 #56
I don't know the exact percentage, of course. DanTex Apr 2014 #59
We do require background checks for most gun purchases JJChambers Apr 2014 #21
But not all of them. Which is the point. DanTex Apr 2014 #23
Who cares how you carry you friggin gunz? Jeebus. Hoyt Apr 2014 #28
The other people who like guns? Of which, even on this forum, there are many. JJChambers Apr 2014 #36
A lot less than you think, particularly those who get all excited about carrying a Hoyt Apr 2014 #61
Silly boy JJChambers Apr 2014 #64
Gun marketeers know what turns gun fanciers on. Hoyt Apr 2014 #65
What a strange viewpoint you have. I'll never understand it. It's simply illogical. JJChambers Apr 2014 #67
So is strapping on a gun to walk out the front door. Hoyt Apr 2014 #69
I would rather have one and not need it than need one and not have it. JJChambers Apr 2014 #70
Do you carry a defibrillator? Much more likely to really need it. Hoyt Apr 2014 #71
That isn't really practical to carry, though I am certified in CPR JJChambers Apr 2014 #72
I don't know your case, but Zimmerman and Dunn believe a gun saved their lives. Hoyt Apr 2014 #73
Hurray billionaire sugar daddies! 1000words Apr 2014 #18
Almost as much as I am bemused by deflective posts containing little more than petulance... LanternWaste Apr 2014 #52
If he wants his $50 million to be more effectively used Loudly Apr 2014 #19
Or we could use the money to make sure more minorities are stopped and frisked. oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #34
Here. This is for you. Loudly Apr 2014 #39
You know I was being sarcastic right? oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #47
Challenge consisting of what? A boxing match with the NRA President? Waste... cherokeeprogressive Apr 2014 #25
He's a narcissistic jackass oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #32
Looking at how to effectively use that money is a problem in itself. edgineered Apr 2014 #30
"Privilege?" derby378 Apr 2014 #45
If only common sense were more common. edgineered Apr 2014 #68
meh oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #31
Moms against the NRA marions ghost Apr 2014 #42
Money down the tubes... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #44
He did wonders in CO during the recall elections Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #62
While I don't know for certain... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #63
Support for gun control? badtoworse Apr 2014 #46
Woah there buddy Kurska Apr 2014 #49
The only way I see him succeeding is by employing me Hutzpa Apr 2014 #50
Fuck Bloomberg. MicaelS Apr 2014 #51
I'll put my backing behind Americans for Responsible Solutions sarisataka Apr 2014 #55
Give it a chance marions ghost Apr 2014 #57
Good. Hopefully, it will be money well spent. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #58
Bloomberg has a set of laws for him and another set of laws for us little people Lurks Often Apr 2014 #60
SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY... rrneck Apr 2014 #66
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