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Tierra_y_Libertad

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64. OK. How about commenting on the same story by The Guardian and NYTimes?

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Wed Apr 16, 2014, 03:15 PM

Apr 2014

Or, are they all bigots too?

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Ukrainian troops sent by Kiev defect to anti-government protesters. [View all] another_liberal Apr 2014 OP

Guardian live update reports the same dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #1

This may turn out to be one of those CIA sponsored coups . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #2

That is precisely what is happening malaise Apr 2014 #45

let's hope Putin rots in hell. nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #92

Someone on twitter said... Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #112

That is deep . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #121

Pretty much captured the mess of multi-ethnic states when a strong central authority disappears. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #124

Pretty much captured the mess of these multi-ethnic states when a strong central authority disappear Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #123

I'm not so sure of that, TBH. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #166

Thanks. This is probably why NATO is now involved. They can't let the people decide sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #16

You should probably bother to keep reading your own sources. jeff47 Apr 2014 #30

I watched the American born journalist on CNN tearing the host a new one malaise Apr 2014 #44

Although still NOT free from the Russian imperialistic taint, THIS........ socialist_n_TN Apr 2014 #3

Popular uprisings don't look like this: Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #4

However . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #6

The people in this picture are the ones shielding the people in the first picture. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #8

Damn it, I forgot the rules . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #10

No, they're both wrong. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #37

They just seized the Central Bank malaise Apr 2014 #109

Sure, 1st thing you ALWAYS do in a protest... EX500rider Apr 2014 #82

Who "seized government buildings" in Maiden? joshcryer Apr 2014 #144

Of course they don't, which raises the question, what is the point of that photo? sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #17

"All of the people of Ukraine, not just the few thousand" Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #42

'Seized tanks'?? Really? Have you read the world wide news reports on the defection of the Ukraine sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #47

"No offence by you appear to be among them, have zero knowledge of this country." Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #58

Well, end of conversation when someone resorts to personal insults. Most Americans have ZERO sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #66

Yes. I so love your "independent reporting" that you post here. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #78

I don't 'reportt' anything, I am not a reporter. I do correct wrong information if I see it. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #80

The BBC has done some thorough reporting on the matter. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #83

Western media has a clear bias in this story and have FAR FAR less reason to be involved there sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #84

What do you mean, "Why are we there?" Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #85

Explain?? Surely you are not denying the role the US played in the coup? Surely you are not sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #111

In conspiracy theories, the burden of proof is always on the person espousing the theory. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #169

So you admit that the US State Dept. not to mention two US Senators, were in Ukraine sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #178

I've put forward is the generally accepted narrative. You are claiming the conspiracy theory. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #179

Well, when you wrongfully attribute words to someone whose words are right in front of you sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #180

You're talking, putting words down, but you haven't proven a single thing. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #182

Why the hell is Putin there? NuclearDem Apr 2014 #110

What the hell gives US the right to enforce our will, with our WMDs on Iraq, on Afghanistan, sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #113

What the fuck are you talking about? NuclearDem Apr 2014 #118

What is false about anything in my post?? Please stop trying to dismiss the role of the Western sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #125

We meddle everywhere. 840high Apr 2014 #130

Thank you. 840high Apr 2014 #129

In complex situations like what is going on truedelphi Apr 2014 #90

Duck Dynasty, nyet? nt JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2014 #79

Popular uprising in Ukraine vs Syria Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #93

Only difference between Syria and Ukraine is Syria shot back. joshcryer Apr 2014 #139

At this point . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #5

because it is totally there right to carve up another country nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #104

Are you kidding me? joshcryer Apr 2014 #115

Good lord, can people stop posting links to Russia Today as if they were reliable on this issue? LeftyMom Apr 2014 #7

Russia Today is not only extremely reliable . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #11

they are reliably full of shit arely staircase Apr 2014 #48

The Corporate Media IS allowed in LBN, which is why I do not use LBN sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #51

yes. the dallas morning news is a real news source arely staircase Apr 2014 #54

Well, I will have to look for the Dallas Mornng News, never heard of it before. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #133

. kwassa Apr 2014 #116

RT isn't allowed in Breaking News, so we here in GD get blasted with it cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #13

From the same poster... SidDithers Apr 2014 #71

Who is 'we'?? The Corporate Media, so totally discredited, is allowed in LBN, and WE are blasted sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #164

Thank you War Horse Apr 2014 #15

Why? They are one of the more reliable news organizations on world affairs. Surely you have no sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #18

The elephant in the room ... polly7 Apr 2014 #20

Whenever I see anyone attack the messenger while ignoring the message, I wonder sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #23

I've noticed that. polly7 Apr 2014 #28

Seriously? jeff47 Apr 2014 #34

Very serious. polly7 Apr 2014 #35

Apparently quoting you doesn't get you to think about what you are saying. jeff47 Apr 2014 #74

Seriously, those of us on this thread wondering how anyone can possibly feel they're polly7 Apr 2014 #99

I'm wondering how you can keep avoiding reading jeff47 Apr 2014 #146

Very serious comment from Polly also backed up by so many credible journalists here and elsewhere. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #95

Quick!!! Change the subject again!!! jeff47 Apr 2014 #148

I answered you up thread. polly7 Apr 2014 #151

And I already replied to you upthread. jeff47 Apr 2014 #153

LOL polly7 Apr 2014 #156

You should not reject a story from any source until you know, as we do re the Corporate sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #155

Yeah .... polly7 Apr 2014 #157

Lol, but the urge to smear any source, and we know how many credible sources have been tossed sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #161

I was told I wanted to have Saddam's babies! polly7 Apr 2014 #162

I never said I discounted anything based upon who published it. polly7 Apr 2014 #150

I. Quoted. You. jeff47 Apr 2014 #152

And here is my fucking quote: polly7 Apr 2014 #154

You mean repeat myself again? jeff47 Apr 2014 #171

It's not hard work at all, I thought you'd probably just accidentally polly7 Apr 2014 #175

It's a tactic, one that is now so obvious, it has zero impact. Great links btw. The truth is that sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #36

I remember how, when simply revealing a source was from Al Jazeera, polly7 Apr 2014 #38

Do you demand such posts when someone says Fox News is wrong? jeff47 Apr 2014 #31

Huh? I don't and never have watched Faux, the danger of becoming physically ill sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #55

Quick!!! Switch Subjects!!!!!! jeff47 Apr 2014 #76

Still trying to avoid discussing the actual issues, still unwilling to point out where the sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #81

I've pointed it out repeatedly. jeff47 Apr 2014 #86

I have FACTS. The deja vu is stunning. I recall having these almost identical conversations re Al sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #96

Sabrina, you are MISTAKEN. Click a link for any of cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #101

First, before I get to the question of the news reports re defecting troops. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #158

No, you don't. You are continuing to lie. jeff47 Apr 2014 #149

See my post below, I really don't have time to repeat the facts again just for you. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #159

No, they are not reporting that. Why are you insisting on lying? jeff47 Apr 2014 #173

Thanks for confirming what I was hoping I was wrong about. You DO support sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #176

And yet you're still lying jeff47 Apr 2014 #177

Lol, keep on truckin' and avoiding the reality of the known facts. You are definitely entitled to be sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #181

Wow. zappaman Apr 2014 #163

Letting the lies go means others will believe them. jeff47 Apr 2014 #172

joining NATO is looking pretty smart about now. nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #49

In YOUR opinion. But apparently NOT in the opinion of the Ukraine people. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #97

I'm guessing people from latvia to poland to croatia and all point in between are glad as hell right arely staircase Apr 2014 #103

Hillary's worst nightmare come true. Corporate MSM losing the propaganda war Catherina Apr 2014 #89

She did say 'we are losing the message'. How odd, the news is a 'message' now?? I thought the news sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #98

Yes, a message. See my quote of the month from Robert Parry about the US Propaganda Catherina Apr 2014 #107

Great post by Parry. I suppose he too is now on the 'under the bus' list. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #126

Keep asking lol. You'll never get one Catherina Apr 2014 #136

Me too. Sy Hersch is the latest to join the crowd under the bus. First to report the Torture crimes sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #138

All the right people on the Left are under the bus. It's not even respectable 2b anywhere else now! Catherina Apr 2014 #160

"much more honest and more accurate than what the U.S. press corps has been producing" Robert Parry Catherina Apr 2014 #94

As reliable as MSM. 840high Apr 2014 #131

These must be Russian imposters LittleBlue Apr 2014 #9

They sure did ship a ton of peope in from Russia newthinking Apr 2014 #12

That grandmotherly lady in the lower left must be Putin's spymaster LittleBlue Apr 2014 #14

Nah.... Xolodno Apr 2014 #68

Is that suppoed to be clever? They WERE imposters. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #102

Source? Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #114

Okay cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #120

From your article... Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #122

Sad isn't it? That the very people here who claimed to support the 'right of protesters' in Kiev, sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #127

well... cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #132

Count on them. William769 Apr 2014 #19

You forgot to include the Guardian and Reuters on this occasion. dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #21

Well in their defense they are reporting what the individual said to them. William769 Apr 2014 #22

As I mentioned in the link you provided dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #24

Mistakes happen. William769 Apr 2014 #27

This one : dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #29

Thanks. William769 Apr 2014 #33

Here's a still shot dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #40

Pro-Russia separatists �seize� Ukrainian armoured vehicles FarCenter Apr 2014 #25

Got anything to counter the reporting in the OP? I've already checked this story and it appears to sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #26

Try reading the post directly above yours. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2014 #32

I've read every post here Still not getting answers to my question, though. So I'll try asking again sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #41

No, you haven't. Because the very title of the post I mentioned answers your question. jeff47 Apr 2014 #75

They give voices to people who are critical of the West and the US NuclearDem Apr 2014 #39

You must not watch it. I have seen plenty of reporting on the opposition sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #43

No major media outlet is 100% credible or free of bias and slant. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #53

Of course no one should ever trust one source and thanks for acknowledging that sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #62

It's not a news organization's job to rehabilitate a country's image. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #67

People DO laugh at our Corporate Media. Are you seriously suggesting we get 'truth' and 'facts' sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #128

Oh don't you even fucking dare. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #137

No, you stop. Sick to death of this garbage. I don't know you from adam. IF you want to attack sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #147

how did I know this would be RT? arely staircase Apr 2014 #46

Cynicism doesn't help when the reply #1 back its up elsewhere dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #50

what? nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #56

How did I know the discussion would devolve into being about the messenger rather than the message? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #52

because the messenger is so flawed it stinks up everything. nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #57

So, reporting the news accurately depends on the smell? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #59

they are the propaganda arm of a homophobic fascist. arely staircase Apr 2014 #60

You have yet to comment on the story. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #61

nor do I comment on what stormfront is saying arely staircase Apr 2014 #63

OK. How about commenting on the same story by The Guardian and NYTimes? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #64

they aren't the op. that steamy pile of fascist shit is. nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #69

The story is the same. Is it the story you object to? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #72

I have no opinion on the story arely staircase Apr 2014 #73

Ok, let's. jeff47 Apr 2014 #77

RT never issues corrections. joshcryer Apr 2014 #143

I know. I'm asking about it to point out that RT never corrects. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2014 #174

Or the Guardian or Reuters come to that dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #65

what? nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #70

Well, because for some, there's no need to discuss the message Scootaloo Apr 2014 #135

Well, certainly RT's lies get buried in the mud. joshcryer Apr 2014 #140

Because it is one of the most reliable international news sources and recognized as such?? sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #165

you know this story turned out to br bullshit right? nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #170

The babushkas as terrorists meme not working out the way we planned Catherina Apr 2014 #87

Well, I *suppose* this might be considered a babushka by some..... Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #88

Memes from fox news. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #117

That is Associated Press. joshcryer Apr 2014 #142

That's a revolutionary man of the people. joshcryer Apr 2014 #141

I'm sure the Cheneyites and McCainoistas will be all over this...nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #91

Chris Hayes is covering this very well tonight n/t malaise Apr 2014 #100

Details Malaise please Catherina Apr 2014 #105

Robert Parry chimes in Oilwellian Apr 2014 #106

+1000. It's my quote of the month now! Catherina Apr 2014 #108

"This propaganda . . . is not just wretched journalism but it is reckless malfeasance." another_liberal Apr 2014 #119

+1000. Sadly, our state department and our press are lying to us about this. reformist2 Apr 2014 #167

Yes, that is because they don't really serve the American people . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #168

+1 840high Apr 2014 #134

Fact: Men abandon APCs to avoid armed conflict. RT: Men defect for the revolution. joshcryer Apr 2014 #145