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pnwmom

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Wed Apr 16, 2014, 05:25 PM Apr 2014

E-cig companies are targeting youth -- Democratic investigation says. [View all]

Last edited Wed Apr 16, 2014, 06:27 PM - Edit history (4)

A "smoking cessation" product is only marketable as long as there are large numbers of people trying to stop smoking. If they don't get addicted to nicotine in the first place, then they won't be. So, in order to grow their market, they need to appeal to new vapers, too -- not just to the diminishing market of people trying to quit tobacco cigarettes.

We also know that in many states there are no restrictions on marketing e-cigs and vape pens to teens or even middle schoolers. In states where it's legal, why would the manufacturers not market to them ? Does anyone really think these corporations would unnecessarily restrict their own profits by voluntarily not marketing to teens?

Here is the PDF of the report:

http://democrats.energycommerce.house.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report-E-Cigarettes-Youth-Marketing-Gateway-To-Addiction-2014-4-14.pdf

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/02/17/276558592/candy-flavors-put-e-cigarettes-on-kids-menu

At a middle school in the San Francisco Bay Area, Viviana Turincio, an 8th grader, recently noticed some kids smoking in class — or at least, that's what it looked like.

"There was a group at the table," she remembers. "And they were just smoking on the vape pen, and the teacher was right there — and the teacher didn't even notice."

That's because her classmates were smoking an electronic cigarette, sometimes called a "vape pen." It's a hand-held, battery-powered device that vaporizes a liquid that is often infused with nicotine. You inhale the vapor through a mouthpiece, and exhale what looks like smoke. In this case the smoke smelled like candy.

"My favorite flavor is gummy bears because it tastes really good," Viviana says.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/15/health/e-cigarette-makers-targeting-youth-congressional-report-says.html?src=rechp

WASHINGTON — An investigation by Democratic members of Congress into the marketing practices of electronic cigarette companies has found that major producers are targeting young people by giving away free samples at music and sporting events and running radio and television advertisements during youth-oriented programs.

The inquiry, led by Senator Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, and Representative Henry A. Waxman, Democrat of California, was conducted as the Food and Drug Administration prepared a major package of tobacco control rules that would place e-cigarettes under federal regulation for the first time.

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“It’s time for the F.D.A. to step up and regulate these products,” Senator Durbin said during a conference call with reporters. “We’ve got to put an end to the marketing of these products to kids.”

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The report surveyed nine major producers, though only eight responded: Altria, R. J. Reynolds Vapor Company, NJOY, Eonsmoke, Logic, VMR, Lorillard and Green Smoke. Six of them said they had sponsored events, and eight said they had given away free samples. In all, 348 events featured free giveaways and sponsorship in 2012 and 2013, “many of which appeared geared toward youth,” the report said.

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"youth" isn't very precise. Is there a definition of that? cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #1
Apparently youth means "people who listen to music, enjoy car races, or read Sports Illustrated". Liberal Veteran Apr 2014 #3
"Won't somone think of the adults!" cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #6
Leonard Nimoy Tweeted about this just yesterday onehandle Apr 2014 #2
What makes me sick is no one considers stopping marketing to children PERIOD. Mindfucking children KittyWampus Apr 2014 #4
This was almost a decade ago, I was in switzerland and a kid about 8-10 was Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #48
So enact age regulations Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #5
What if they kept the sweet flavors pnwmom Apr 2014 #7
In theory, that would be fine Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #10
Is yours still child proof after you've used it once, like a bottle of aspirin would be? pnwmom Apr 2014 #11
Mine is, yes Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #13
Good. Then that's what we should have here, too. n/t pnwmom Apr 2014 #58
I'll agree to that Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #59
That is the way they come here in the US too krawhitham Apr 2014 #51
I thought so Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #52
My packaging doesnt look like candy or toys energumen Apr 2014 #12
Mine came in a black zip-up case Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #15
It sorta works like this.... Liberal Veteran Apr 2014 #27
Yep, mine looks similar to teh bottom one Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #31
Yep, that's my rig right there jberryhill Apr 2014 #45
As if there was some large monoltihic company controlling ecigs Egnever Apr 2014 #8
You're info is outdated. Just one e-cig manufacturer, Lorillard, controls half the market. pnwmom Apr 2014 #9
Again you dont have a clue what you are talking about Egnever Apr 2014 #14
I've tried to explain this to her before. Liberal Veteran Apr 2014 #16
"some" of them don't vape the big brands. But Lorrilard still controls half the market, pnwmom Apr 2014 #21
Do you how much harder it is to track sales of refillable e-cigs? Liberal Veteran Apr 2014 #33
They control 45.5% of the CONVENIENCE STORE Market krawhitham Apr 2014 #55
I started with one of those disposables Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #22
You're the one without a clue. Lorillard dominates the market of ALL these devices, pnwmom Apr 2014 #18
the fact that you call them vape pens says it all Egnever Apr 2014 #20
What you don't understand is that the name doesn't matter, pnwmom Apr 2014 #23
Lorillard in Favor of e-Cigs Regulation Egnever Apr 2014 #28
Lorillard may own a small particular segment of the market energumen Apr 2014 #36
Lorillard controls half the market of all the vaporizing nicotine dispensers. pnwmom Apr 2014 #41
No they dont. Egnever Apr 2014 #47
It's been pointed out that her own source contradicts her jberryhill Apr 2014 #64
Convenience stores energumen Apr 2014 #54
+1 krawhitham Apr 2014 #53
It's not a smoking cessation it's harm reduction. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #17
Do children vape pot in a gummy bear flavor, pnwmom Apr 2014 #19
This is what I was replying to.. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #24
I don't hate harm reduction for adults. But children can go online pnwmom Apr 2014 #25
Oh OK....I see this is about competition for the tobacco companies. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #26
Agreed she seems to be concerned that tobacco will lose sales Egnever Apr 2014 #29
The OP likes the attention. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #32
Absolutely Egnever Apr 2014 #38
And now you're arguing that sweet flavours shouldn't exist Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #30
Children have their own credit cards? tritsofme Apr 2014 #34
And you may ask yourself What is that beautiful house? blogslut Apr 2014 #35
David Byrne was brilliant. herding cats Apr 2014 #60
Seems to me that vaping is becoming popular justiceischeap Apr 2014 #37
durbin has been trying to outlaw regular cigs for years questionseverything Apr 2014 #39
Vaping juices often still contain nicotine though Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #42
a small tax would not be a bad thing if questionseverything Apr 2014 #43
I didn't know that Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #46
2/3 the price of cigs are already taxes questionseverything Apr 2014 #50
Durbin is laying down the rationale for his new e-cig tax Mnpaul Apr 2014 #44
lot of people feel the same questionseverything Apr 2014 #49
Not AGAINST it, necessarily Glitterati Apr 2014 #56
when i read how congress can not come together to do anything questionseverything Apr 2014 #65
I think heavy taxation would be a mistake Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #40
It's exactly what they did with nicotine patches, etc. Glitterati Apr 2014 #57
See, that baffles me Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #61
In the US, NRT costs the same as cigarettes Glitterati Apr 2014 #62
Again, totally different here Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #63
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