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Swede Atlanta

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76. I thought this was bull pucky until I did a little research.....

Reply to Playinghardball (Original post)

Wed Apr 16, 2014, 05:38 PM

Apr 2014

I haven't had the time to do more exhaustive research and look for peer-reviewed studies into the matter but the concept that wind farms on a massive global scale could affect wind patterns and on some local level also affect temperature is not without some basis.

This is a short article from Popular Science from about a year ago....

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-05/fyi-do-wind-farms-make-it-less-windy

I am not convinced that given the size of the earth and the strength of wind currents globally we are anywhere near having an impact on global wind currents or widely distributed temperatures.

I did find it interesting when I did some Googling that there are some scientists that believe that significant wind farms offshore such as in the Gulf of Mexico could significant weaken hurricanes. Again I am not confident of the science on this and wouldn't quote it but it is interesting.

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It's scary that anyone would believe this bullshit.. Even scarier that people voted for this idiot.. [View all] Playinghardball Apr 2014 OP

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