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7. wrong place, sorry. nt

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The rise of the evolutionary psychology douchebag [View all] seabeyond Apr 2014 OP

It's problematic Polito Vega Apr 2014 #1

Did you see this? redqueen Apr 2014 #2

I read a piece that said that a lot of bones with human teeth marks on them chrisa Apr 2014 #3

fantastic angle. thank you for posting. i had not thought of it from that angle. seabeyond Apr 2014 #8

Margaret Mead's work answered a lot of this bullshit 60 years ago. Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #109

love it. thank you. and one awesome woman. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #111

I read a theory that leopards helped us evolve, because they killed and we stole. mainer Apr 2014 #18

"they killed and we stole.""biologist called...equivalent of fast food". i interpret seabeyond Apr 2014 #19

atlatl rrneck Apr 2014 #36

Actually due to our ability to sweat, humans are better than most animals at running... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #83

oh noes... You are going to make men vote for repugs... Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #4

hey, if i can convince my father, 76 and never voted dem, to vote obama and my husband, seabeyond Apr 2014 #9

Well, they're right. Everyone knows Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #113

I just finished up laundry_queen Apr 2014 #5

and then there is all that. actual facts of the past. and what we can or cannot know. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #11

wrong place... boston bean Apr 2014 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Apr 2014 #79

Well crap, murder and violence in general is part of human evolution. But so are social contracts. yellowcanine Apr 2014 #6

wrong place, sorry. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #7

EvoPsych is, at best, an emerging science Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #10

it takes our social and gender roles now and tries to extrapolate them backwards seabeyond Apr 2014 #15

yes, it's all post-hoc hypothesizing. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #151

That picture is wrong on so many fronts, I don't know where to start. Rex Apr 2014 #12

i know. i swear i can find it in the kid bible with dinos playing around as a pet. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #16

Why was Dieteich Stapel tossed in there? AngryAmish Apr 2014 #13

Here is the Wikipedia page on evolutionary psychology. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #14

ah. you believe. k. i knew that. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #17

You are mistaken. I have no clue about evolutionary psychology. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #20

hm. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #21

You're welcome. n/t Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #25

lol seabeyond Apr 2014 #26

I suppose many biases require one to confuse a critique with an attack. LanternWaste Apr 2014 #33

You cannot discount science just because LittleBlue Apr 2014 #22

it is not science. and per all the info in the OP i am not discounting cause i do not like seabeyond Apr 2014 #23

This is a response to discounting science. chrisa Apr 2014 #34

...you're using the fact that one evolutionary psychologist may have done something bad to attack Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #24

Bingo LittleBlue Apr 2014 #27

google. educate yourself. i did not provide the vast documentaion provided on google that seabeyond Apr 2014 #29

I have google links disproving climate change LittleBlue Apr 2014 #30

this is not a fun game for me. and i have stuff to do. so... believe. i do not care. info is seabeyond Apr 2014 #32

I did some research on it. it isn't without controversy but it is a real field of science arely staircase Apr 2014 #84

and the rest of the scientific community reject them, because of the inadaquacies they take seabeyond Apr 2014 #89

that doesn't seem to be the case arely staircase Apr 2014 #98

you are wrong. but, you are just starting to read up on it. you can catch up at will seabeyond Apr 2014 #102

you are correct in that I have read very little about it. arely staircase Apr 2014 #108

from my OP. i am aware it is in our universities, criminal system, govt, judical system. seabeyond Apr 2014 #112

wait, what? nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #120

My op already states it is in the universities. Hence, I know universities pay. Nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #122

Don't you get it? Facts be damned, she knows what's up and there's no changing her mind. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #115

really? what fact did i miss? or false accusation a big thumbs up? nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #116

well. firstly there was more than just one "done something bad" so what does that say about your seabeyond Apr 2014 #28

Could you edit this for grammar/clarity, please? Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #31

my edit works better. seabeyond Apr 2014 #35

It was one psychologust doing one thing? Sounds like you did not read what you are commenting on.... bettyellen Apr 2014 #41

Evolutionary Psycology is some pretty interesting stuff. rrneck Apr 2014 #37

in hteory, yes, ... seabeyond Apr 2014 #38

In science a theory is as good as it gets. rrneck Apr 2014 #39

actually no. a theory can be ridiculous and discredited. not "as good as it gets", LOL. bettyellen Apr 2014 #40

... rrneck Apr 2014 #43

oooh, a wiki link. How very peer reviewed, LOL!!! bettyellen Apr 2014 #44

Clearly you don't understand the scientific process. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #45

evo psych is largely a crock of shit, unlike Hubble peering into the past..... bettyellen Apr 2014 #49

I've been wondering about rrneck Apr 2014 #54

well, you have to believe we KNOW there was no communication or tranmission back then, and we do not bettyellen Apr 2014 #58

Sure. rrneck Apr 2014 #61

"Stasis was much more the norm in those days" is a supposition that has been frequently disproved. bettyellen Apr 2014 #65

I agree. rrneck Apr 2014 #71

Wiki is very handy rrneck Apr 2014 #50

Another thing that's also interesting is... opiate69 Apr 2014 #51

other than evo psych, tell me what other science is called a new religion in the NAME of science. seabeyond Apr 2014 #56

Entirely too easy. opiate69 Apr 2014 #59

too interesting. i figured you were going to show me creationism, being a science. hm... seabeyond Apr 2014 #66

... opiate69 Apr 2014 #69

Are you claiming that evo psych is a scientific theory or just blurring the lines between Chathamization Apr 2014 #153

I don't think it's a theory yet. rrneck Apr 2014 #157

in theory was to your comment. not scienctific theory. seabeyond Apr 2014 #46

"factually, it is not playing out" rrneck Apr 2014 #53

"Why?" you might start by reading the OP. lol. bah hahah. geez seabeyond Apr 2014 #55

I was asking for any reference you may have to the facts or lacd thereof rrneck Apr 2014 #60

here are a few, cause not like i havent put this out before, in the past. seabeyond Apr 2014 #64

Ah. rrneck Apr 2014 #75

really? i give you an OP that explains the problems. you want a more scientific approach to the seabeyond Apr 2014 #78

You have posted rebuttals written by others rrneck Apr 2014 #86

seriously? now are you asking me to get the bunk studies of evo psych and them being discredited? seabeyond Apr 2014 #91

.. opiate69 Apr 2014 #92

what opiate? continually asking for more info is just a game? no surprise there. gotta be games. seabeyond Apr 2014 #154

Not so with science... opiate69 Apr 2014 #47

geez guys. everyone knows what scientific theory is and knows the use of theory as a word seabeyond Apr 2014 #48

the actual handling is the issue. why would we embrace a falsehood as a truth, when we know it is seabeyond Apr 2014 #42

+1 LittleBlue Apr 2014 #62

Yep. It happens when ideology trumps evidence. rrneck Apr 2014 #63

that is not true. what do you mean, yup. where did ANYONE state chemicals do not effect brain. ONE seabeyond Apr 2014 #68

I'm searching for it now. LittleBlue Apr 2014 #88

studies are coming out all on its own, no. and someone challenging that is a long way seabeyond Apr 2014 #93

ONE person that says chemicals in our brain do not effect us. ONE. seabeyond Apr 2014 #74

the brain stuff is not really the domain of evolutionary psychologists, its more the domain of neuro La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #72

Maybe. rrneck Apr 2014 #77

right, but brain chemistry is not exactly what evolutionary psychologists are trained to do. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #81

As I understand it they are studying the relationship between mental function and chemistry. rrneck Apr 2014 #96

again, they do not examine brain chemistry. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #99

That's true. rrneck Apr 2014 #103

evolutionary biologist, i think is what the more basic scientific approach is. this field is respect seabeyond Apr 2014 #82

So rrneck Apr 2014 #90

what the hell does it matter and why should i waste my time. you have made it clear you are not seabeyond Apr 2014 #94

I've asked you for facts at least three times. rrneck Apr 2014 #97

women like pink cause way back when, they picked berries seabeyond Apr 2014 #101

Um, rrneck Apr 2014 #114

Bookmarked for later CFLDem Apr 2014 #52

you are welcome. cfl. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #57

I object to the use of the term "douchebag" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #67

except that they are not. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #73

This town needs an enema. nt Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #87

i object also, but i believe in putting in the title given. and no, it is not. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #85

evo is al post-hoc nonsense (well mostly, at any rate). nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #70

but what about the bonobo's? boston bean Apr 2014 #80

i do not know if they are bonobos, but have you seen this thread. love. seabeyond Apr 2014 #107

I think that the issue is that the field is far too young, and involved psychology... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #95

yes. it is best to not extrapolate wildly from tiny effect sizes. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #100

thanks humanist. i agree with you. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #105

i see a handful of men really invested in evo psych. and i am not surprised by a single man that is seabeyond Apr 2014 #104

So if it quacks like a duck.... Major Nikon Apr 2014 #119

I hVe scientists on my side and most of the population. The other side? Anti feminists. Anti women. seabeyond Apr 2014 #123

Somehow I doubt that Major Nikon Apr 2014 #129

post 64. i give you the info. you refuse to read. i understand it is an illusion for SOME men to seabeyond Apr 2014 #133

Illusion my ass Major Nikon Apr 2014 #146

In 2010, I said of evolutionary psychology.. LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #106

evolution occurs at the genetic level, not at the level of the individual item of behaviour. seabeyond Apr 2014 #110

From what I've seen so far rrneck Apr 2014 #117

A lot of them actually sound like "Natural Law" philosophers. n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #118

*cough* Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #121

Post 123 dude. As I say, the only ones invested in evo psych in this thread are those anti feminist seabeyond Apr 2014 #124

Yes. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #125

MRAs are much closer aligned with conservative Fundies- unless your ONLY concern is porn? Nice try! bettyellen Apr 2014 #127

Did you even read the link I provided in post #121? Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #128

do you know the difference between the theory of evo and evo psych? do you understand why the fundie seabeyond Apr 2014 #131

You don't. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #134

a lot fo christian coalition men support evo psych. this author actually points out seabeyond Apr 2014 #136

and in this thread alone, beside the men that consistently fight against women issues, everyone seabeyond Apr 2014 #130

Yeah, I'm not fighting against women's issues. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #135

just about every thread that comes up. and no... i am not gonna point out what you are well aware seabeyond Apr 2014 #137

Provide links. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #138

No. It is not a personal attack. And I did not create this op for you and seabeyond Apr 2014 #139

So you've got nothing. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #140

Every thread on women's issue. Have a good night seabeyond Apr 2014 #141

You may want to have a jury look at this too, then. Sheldon Cooper Apr 2014 #142

You're confusing evolution with evo-psych. n/t kcr Apr 2014 #149

It's the favorite pseudoscience of our time... Democracyinkind Apr 2014 #126

"It's an appealing fallacy, though." they are here in the thread, well invested in their evo psych seabeyond Apr 2014 #132

well stated. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #150

I've always had questions Shankapotomus Apr 2014 #143

How do you know cooperation was not the start and with a hierarchy and power over seabeyond Apr 2014 #144

I always get pegged when I Shankapotomus Apr 2014 #145

You are fun. I enjoyed reading your post but... seabeyond Apr 2014 #147

No worries Shankapotomus Apr 2014 #148

The most dangerous lies DonCoquixote Apr 2014 #152

Just a reminder; MRA's are considered HATE groups by the Southern Poverty Law Center ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #155

ah, what is it with all the hate. does it really simply boil down to a two yr old tantrum cause he seabeyond Apr 2014 #156