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liberalmike27

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50. Again, if you Read the Article

Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:38 AM

Apr 2014

You'll see that distributive systems of electricity from many sources, actually keeps them from having to pump so much electricity over long distances, which actually takes stress OFF the lines, making maintenance costs less. So not only do solar and wind installations save them money because of reduced maintenance needs, but they'll get this fee too.

It's a tax on the environmental, basically. It's like the Washington State measure they were trying to pass, a per mile tax on cars, to replace gas taxes. That means whether you've got a Chevy Volt, or a YUKON SUV, you pay the same per mile, even though obviously the YUKON does much more damage to roads over time.

It is basically a tax on being a good environmental steward of the planet. It is completely wrong.

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Oklahoma Will Charge Customers Who Install Their Own Solar Panels [View all] n2doc Apr 2014 OP

When do they start charging people for the air they breathe? nt onehandle Apr 2014 #1

I'm surprised that they havn't JackInGreen Apr 2014 #22

[n/t] Maedhros Apr 2014 #80

Ah, Capital-eezum! nikto Apr 2014 #75

The same state that bans pay hikes, paid sick leave and paid vacation. appleannie1 Apr 2014 #2

I would be heading for the exits....... Swede Atlanta Apr 2014 #8

Nothing like destroying the incentive for developing the use of green energy. passiveporcupine Apr 2014 #63

Are they going to charge fees for those that use wood burning stoves LiberalFighter Apr 2014 #3

I think this only applies to those attached to the grid Marrah_G Apr 2014 #7

Don't the customers who purchase the power end up paying for the maintenance? toddwv Apr 2014 #17

That is the Lie they Tell liberalmike27 Apr 2014 #45

Thank you for the information! Marrah_G Apr 2014 #58

Lines don't care unless they are overloaded, they don't wear out from use if properly sized. Throckmorton Apr 2014 #88

This is from the party of lower taxes and less regulation. progressoid Apr 2014 #4

They never do add " for big corporations" at the end, do they? chrisa Apr 2014 #26

That is only for big corporations... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #79

the people of that state need to vote this criminals out of office warrior1 Apr 2014 #5

I hate to say but most if not all of the Democrats also supported this oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #16

'Cause it's f@&$*@g Oklahoma, that's why. Aristus Apr 2014 #37

Yes.evil ass oklahoma... butterfly77 Apr 2014 #78

This Runs liberalmike27 Apr 2014 #46

penalized for not contributing maximally to energy company profits.... mike_c Apr 2014 #6

Gov. Fallin is totally falling in line with selected corporate interests and ladjf Apr 2014 #9

This is why we need better battery storage and local grids - they are charging to connect to the djean111 Apr 2014 #10

I know nothing about solar and wind, but KatyMan Apr 2014 #12

That occurred to me, too - I know that people are connected to the grid for djean111 Apr 2014 #18

off grid DustyJoe Apr 2014 #36

Thank you for that real-time information! djean111 Apr 2014 #47

Of Course liberalmike27 Apr 2014 #48

For some, it's the only way to afford it. freebrew Apr 2014 #24

The OK FEC-Fascist Energy Complex took control away from the cities and counties. Utility lines DhhD Apr 2014 #41

OK wants to go back to the cave days.. poor things. Cha Apr 2014 #11

People from Oklahoma need to take a closer look at ladjf Apr 2014 #13

And, she hates Gay People to the point of denying all members of National Guard Members.. Cha Apr 2014 #15

If the fee is small, it's reasonable. Amak8 Apr 2014 #14

I would have thought the electricity sold back to the power company might mitigate the cost? djean111 Apr 2014 #19

What precisely is reasonable about a fee for not using a service? LanternWaste Apr 2014 #42

Again, if you Read the Article liberalmike27 Apr 2014 #50

Oklahoma is run by Big Oil. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #20

Cushings Oklahoma is the big pipeline head and storage for pumped oil. Link provided. DhhD Apr 2014 #44

When it's cows on federal land it's freeloading mathematic Apr 2014 #21

I don't know JackInGreen Apr 2014 #23

Not the same AT ALL leftynyc Apr 2014 #29

Far from the same thing in New York. Here we pay a monthly transportation fee that often is A Simple Game Apr 2014 #43

Sunshine is stil free, right? AAO Apr 2014 #55

This is because utility companies are threatened by solar panels. chrisa Apr 2014 #25

Power corporations can't be having people supply their own electricity ... L0oniX Apr 2014 #27

The Rich get Richer liberalmike27 Apr 2014 #51

Some corporations, investment banks and the MIC are the enemies of the people L0oniX Apr 2014 #52

So they ban minimum wage increases, now they're charging people for installing Arkana Apr 2014 #28

If we could only JackInGreen Apr 2014 #30

Why don't they just install David Koch as Emperor of Oklahoma and be done with it. CanonRay Apr 2014 #31

I am looking at my latest electricity bill. djean111 Apr 2014 #32

Kinetic Energy is taxable as it is in motion doing work. Potential Energy is taxable if it is in DhhD Apr 2014 #49

Well, the way it's worded it shouldn't even apply EC Apr 2014 #33

ALEC and the Koch brothers lobbied this effort successfully in Arizona first. Trust Buster Apr 2014 #34

perfect reason to NOT grid tie DustyJoe Apr 2014 #35

Vote these guys out of office..... UCmeNdc Apr 2014 #38

To get the public to do that FiveGoodMen Apr 2014 #71

makes me laugh and cry all at the same time oldandhappy Apr 2014 #39

So...negatively affecting businesses in the state is OK (no pun intended) Roland99 Apr 2014 #40

Oklahoma has gone communist (NT) The Wizard Apr 2014 #53

Man, how obvious do they have to make it? malthaussen Apr 2014 #54

The fee goes to the power company, right? tclambert Apr 2014 #56

This just displays the Hatred the Right has for progressives and the left . They hate PROGRESS . geretogo Apr 2014 #57

It's becoming clear that there is an unusual, and overwhelming, number of really stupid RWers Zorra Apr 2014 #59

The Article I read is they are only charged if they sell their excess energy. dilby Apr 2014 #60

as I posted on another thread DustyJoe Apr 2014 #65

So you would not be taxed like in the article. dilby Apr 2014 #68

Many not wealthy people have roody Apr 2014 #97

As the egregious malfeasance of the state becomes exposed...... DeSwiss Apr 2014 #61

In theory, are they selling the power back to the citizens or power company? NCTraveler Apr 2014 #62

Oklahoma has passed two shitty things this week. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #64

back to the dark ages - oh, wait, it's been there all along and sinking deeper obxnacy Apr 2014 #66

what? MisterP Apr 2014 #74

I think Oklahoma was tired of Kansas getting all the publicity. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #67

No kidding. I'm surprised Kansas hasn't changed the name of Liberal, KS. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #92

The link herein is old, but just a little reminder that this was one of the single most Progressive jtuck004 Apr 2014 #69

Don't tread on them, Oklahoma! blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #70

Good old-fashioned FREEDOM! moondust Apr 2014 #72

Oklahoma--the state you DON'T want to live in. nt valerief Apr 2014 #73

Whatever happened to free markets, limited government and individual liberty? BeyondGeography Apr 2014 #76

oklahoma is fucking third world.. frylock Apr 2014 #77

This is just another Republican atrocity carried out by big business to maximize their profits. nt ladjf Apr 2014 #81

Koch snorters Jack Rabbit Apr 2014 #82

I don't understand. So some are selling back to the grid .. why are they charged and $$$??? YOHABLO Apr 2014 #83

Let's hear it for government getting out of the way of the free market! Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #84

Now all the OK xxqqqzme Apr 2014 #85

Is it more offensive Armadotrasgo Apr 2014 #86

Is there a lot of dioxin or some other neurotoxin in the water in OK? blackspade Apr 2014 #87

Next: Charge Nebraska for Wind Anymouse Apr 2014 #89

Where is their outrage? "taking away our Freedom!" demosincebirth Apr 2014 #90

It took those assholes 25 years to get rid of prohibition, santamargarita Apr 2014 #91

Oklahoma Phlem Apr 2014 #93

It running a good race for it! BlueJac Apr 2014 #94

Dumb and Dumber is their motto! BlueJac Apr 2014 #95

Because solar power is so successful they are also considering this in california. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #96