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LiberalLovinLug

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68. Is that like a known unknown, or an unknown known?

Thu Apr 17, 2014, 02:16 PM

Apr 2014

I think she would never beat Hillary in the primaries, but I'd sure like to see her steer the conversation at the convention to what issues are important. Just to make Hillary a bit nervous and have to bend a little more to the left in her promises. (Although from experience promises in the Democratic primaries mean little once they get in). But at least it would be something to hold her feet to the fire with when she gets in.

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TRUMKA Wants Elizabeth Warren to Be President: "In short," he wrote, "it don't get no better." [View all] kpete Apr 2014 OP

Warren/Trumka! nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #1

I would love to see it. Brigid Apr 2014 #2

You are correct ChangeUp106 Apr 2014 #4

Bernie said he was on Big Ed's show yesterday. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #7

That's excellent news about Bernie. Wish it was both of them, on the same ticket, under any letter. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #85

Warren/Sanders 2016 LongTomH Apr 2014 #107

Even if she doesn't, support like this can help steer the candidates who do run. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2014 #9

Well it looks like she's running: she just announced a "book" today frazzled Apr 2014 #3

Agreed on the problem of Warren's coming late to the progressive side, and, sadly FailureToCommunicate Apr 2014 #19

I disagree. I think she has charisma aplenty, and more importantly, whathehell Apr 2014 #71

Yes, substance and message SHOULD be more important. But charisma can get you elected... FailureToCommunicate Apr 2014 #79

I haven't seen her in person yet, but I will on May 3rd in Chicago.. whathehell Apr 2014 #82

popular tv show like charisma dont make all. mylye2222 Apr 2014 #98

Say what? whathehell Apr 2014 #106

Some Democrats seem to think a progressive candidate cannot win INdemo Apr 2014 #91

Vietnam? Civil rights? Wasn't Hillary a Goldberg "Girl" during that era? merrily Apr 2014 #20

A "Goldberg girl?" MADem Apr 2014 #32

Thanks. Not a Goldberg girl, but a Goldwater Girl (upper case G on Girl.) merrily Apr 2014 #35

PS. But for a name change, Barry Morris Goldwasser would have been Goldwater's name at birth. merrily Apr 2014 #38

Goldwasser isn't Goldberg! MADem Apr 2014 #39

No. I erred--and already thanked you for the correction. merrily Apr 2014 #41

Barry Goldwater's grandparents kept their Jewish surname, they MADem Apr 2014 #47

They changed their name to Goldwater, as the quote you posted clearly states. merrily Apr 2014 #49

They didn't change it to Smith, or Snidely-Bottomtooth. MADem Apr 2014 #54

They changed it regardless of what they changed it to or how merrily Apr 2014 #93

many people coming to this country changed their names, many of them were not Jewish lululu Apr 2014 #72

Hillary was 17 in 1964, not 47 frazzled Apr 2014 #40

Yes, I noted that it was not the same as changing parties at 47. merrily Apr 2014 #43

with an electorate that gets off on "bi-partisanship" Schema Thing Apr 2014 #65

She was all of 17 years old when she was a Goldwater girl. Beacool Apr 2014 #59

I think we often tend to remember the past in such a way as to validate our current values... LanternWaste Apr 2014 #74

Yes, if we were all judged by what we liked in our teenage years, Beacool Apr 2014 #77

I am willing to be judged by the politics of my teenagen years. She was Republican in college, merrily Apr 2014 #88

Heh heh... MADem Apr 2014 #96

Yes, so? I acknowledged that several times, including in the post to merrily Apr 2014 #87

But ofcourse, Hillary represents the same-old same old. nikto Apr 2014 #37

Warren. It's her turn! NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #5

Ooh... I like the new sig image MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #16

Your's has a cool slogan... NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #31

It's her turn??? Beacool Apr 2014 #63

As opposed to those who are recycled year after year? Fearless Apr 2014 #84

That's why we want her. No more career insiders, DLCers, Third Wayers, dynasties, corporate sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #86

I seconds you. However recent history shows that, mylye2222 Apr 2014 #100

Huge K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #6

It really doesn't get no better. nt Democracyinkind Apr 2014 #8

Elizabeth Warren.... democrank Apr 2014 #10

She is my first choice! Liberalynn Apr 2014 #11

K&R! nt greyl Apr 2014 #12

We must elect Elizabeth Warren! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #13

If she won't run, Trumka wouldn't be bad either. n/t DefenseLawyer Apr 2014 #14

She's NOT RUNNING MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #15

Very true....it's Hillary's nomination if she wants it. Trust Buster Apr 2014 #23

Hillary's sacrificed so much for the country she loves MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #27

It's her turn, don't ya know? GoneFishin Apr 2014 #52

Yes, the monarchy demands a proper heir. Only Clinton's and Bush's need apply for the coronation. nt NorthCarolina Apr 2014 #61

Well, there is a young Kennedy coming up... malthaussen Apr 2014 #64

Seems as silly to vote against a person due to family lineage LanternWaste Apr 2014 #75

And Jeb the presidency... pocoloco Apr 2014 #62

Thats what they said in 2006 krawhitham Apr 2014 #108

So ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #17

Only Trumka knows what he meant by his words. merrily Apr 2014 #22

That's not my point ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #26

I already addressed that. These are Trumka's words. Only merrily Apr 2014 #29

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #33

Shhhhhhh! That's not the meme being pushed here. MADem Apr 2014 #34

Now you gone and done it ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #42

Heh heh.... MADem Apr 2014 #44

The issue of who is stalking and who is simply posting merrily Apr 2014 #46

Yes ... it is. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #51

And Hillary is not pro military? merrily Apr 2014 #45

Of course she's pro-military. That's not the surprise. MADem Apr 2014 #48

How people look at you does not seem relevant to your post about which meme is, according to you, merrily Apr 2014 #50

I can't help you if you insist on confusing a comparison with the point. nt MADem Apr 2014 #55

Um, I actually followed what 1StrongBlackMan was saying. merrily Apr 2014 #90

I understood 1Strong perfectly. I don't think you did, though. nt MADem Apr 2014 #97

In Reply 26, he or she not only specifies what I said, but actually calls it his or her "point." merrily Apr 2014 #99

Obama isn't running in 2016, but he is the party leader and he will play a role in the MADem Apr 2014 #101

Obama is party leader but that obvious fact has nothing to do merrily Apr 2014 #109

You're the one moving the posts, so thank YOU for making that quite clear. MADem Apr 2014 #110

No, and anyone who cares to trace the discussion from 1StrongBlackMan's post to this one merrily Apr 2014 #111

You just can't stop! MADem Apr 2014 #112

heh, heh, "unlike many politicians"...I wonder who those "many politicians" are antigop Apr 2014 #18

What is "almost all of them," Alec? merrily Apr 2014 #24

"she actually sticks by those values and fights to implement them" That she does. Autumn Apr 2014 #21

Everything is relative. I like Sanders, but I don't think he believes he has any chance of merrily Apr 2014 #25

K & R for Warren, Sanders and Trumka--and for Democratic voters having merrily Apr 2014 #28

With regard to Sen Warren running for president, remember: "Candidates are either running or not rhett o rick Apr 2014 #30

Is that like a known unknown, or an unknown known? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2014 #68

Clinton-Sachs isnt about to either pull to the left or even pretend to pull to rhett o rick Apr 2014 #76

Warren/Sanders sounds good to me. I'm in, with Warren/any. nt silvershadow Apr 2014 #36

wow, kpete Apr 2014 #58

K&R. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #53

I've always liked Richard Trumka. liberalla Apr 2014 #56

America should be so lucky....but it won't. Our only allowed choices will be NorthCarolina Apr 2014 #57

On economic issues those two camps are essentially the same Dragonfli Apr 2014 #70

She looks today they way Obama looked in 2006. JayhawkSD Apr 2014 #60

"We need someone who speaks little and wears big heavy boots" 2banon Apr 2014 #78

Agree, agree, agree... DirtyDawg Apr 2014 #66

Ok Trumka, under the Hillary 2016 bus you go DonCoquixote Apr 2014 #67

K&R johnnyreb Apr 2014 #69

I'm an AFSCME member Omaha Steve Apr 2014 #73

EXACTLY!!! supercats Apr 2014 #80

Trumka/Warren Armadotrasgo Apr 2014 #81

Ill bet this is one reason....Unions Press Clinton on Outsourcing Of U.S. Jobs antigop Apr 2014 #83

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #89

And more importantly: LordGlenconner Apr 2014 #92

Blah blah blah treestar Apr 2014 #94

We certainly need someone with her sensibilities. DirkGently Apr 2014 #95

I offer Sen Boxer!!! mylye2222 Apr 2014 #102

I like her too, very much. n/t DirkGently Apr 2014 #103

To conclude my choices... mylye2222 Apr 2014 #104

I do worry about her corporate-friendliness. DirkGently Apr 2014 #105