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In reply to the discussion: The Disturbing Reality of White Privilege [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)39. Yes, it is what you are trying to do.
The problem is, Not every white person is on the same exact level, and gets the exact same respect from society as a whole.
And privilege does not require that they all be on the exact same level. Nor do the people using the word privilege believe that they are all on the same level.
We're well aware that rich white people have more privilege than poor white people. Heck, rich minorities probably have more privilege than poor white people. But that's not the point.
But that's not what we're trying to do
Yes, it is exactly what you are trying to do. You are searching for a term that would be less offensive to the right.
And this isn't about the right, Jeff; many of them can't be saved by our efforts alone. It's about those people on the fence.......those are the ones that can and need to be, woken up, by and large. And special snowflaking over who has the least "privilege", etc. sure as hell isn't helping us.
The only one who's special snowflaking is you.
I'm a white male. That gets me a certain amount of privilege. I'm paid well, which gets me some additional privilege. However, I'm nowhere close to rich. Which means I lose out on some other privilege.
But there is not a single "privilege scale". You appear to be think there is one. Privilege is not a quantifiable value. We can't declare I'm a 6, while Alan Keyes is a 7. It does not work that way. It's a complex and highly variable multi-dimentional social effect.
Your objection to using the word privilege is over attempting to oversimplify down to a single metric. Since that oversimplification just does not work, it is wrong to change language based on it.
Additionally, there's little to no evidence that some other word is going to magically turn those fence-sitters into civil rights activists. However, it means we are spending time arguing over the perfect word to use instead of actually working on the underlying problem. Exactly like those on the right would like us to do. Perhaps we should stop indulging them.
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"I agree, sheshe, the black gun toters would either be dead or in jail already."
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#10
LOL. It's ALWAYS about race. No other explainations, ever. All about race. All the time.
Skip Intro
Apr 2014
#14
I don't doubt there's a disparity.....but as I factually pointed out on the other thread.....
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#9
Exactly. There's no way to appease racists without flat-out refusing to discuss racism.
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#22
I'm not refusing to discuss racism, though(where did that come from?). And that's the problem. nt
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#27
So it can be discussed, but it can't be discussed in a certain specific way because
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#31
See post #33. And keep in mind I'm *not* including you personally under "idiot white people." n/t
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#34
You're entitled to your opinion on the subject, but like the man said, opinions aren't fact. n/t
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#21
Frankly I have no interest in coddling ignorant, entitled fools. Not when the subject at hand
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#33
"I would put forward that you simply do not understand it." And you are entitled to that opinion.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#49
More than one thing going on here, but yes, race is definitely one of them. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Apr 2014
#18
"They do not own America. They are not patriots." Seconded! They're not "patriots" at all.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#29