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mbperrin

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133. Are you assuming that the officer knew the dog was there before he entered the property?

Fri Apr 18, 2014, 03:21 PM

Apr 2014

It's a chain link fence, so uh, yeah, he probably should have known.

Of course, he probably should have know how to discharge a weapon without shooting himself, so there you go.

And I suppose that the deputy could be blind, what with all the hiring inclusion going on these days, and so he couldn't have seen the dog, which would be some sort of violation of the deputy's rights, having a dog that's not sending a signal to the blind that he's there, and that might explain his problem with his weapon, which in that case, he's not incompetent at all, just a victim of insufficient modification to this job description to account for having to shoot without being able to see.

This hypothetical stuff is fun! Just chunk all known facts and imagine away! Wheeeee!

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Calif. TV station films dog calmly playing with kids after cop shoots himself trying to kill it [View all] warrior1 Apr 2014 OP

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #1

You're blaming the mother?... TeeYiYi Apr 2014 #4

just use sunnystarr Apr 2014 #8

That would work. ..nt TeeYiYi Apr 2014 #11

You are spot on lillypaddle Apr 2014 #66

Please don't be asinine Hayduke Bomgarte Apr 2014 #19

Calling someone a "son of a bitch" is actually insulting his mother. cyberswede Apr 2014 #48

It's ridiculous lillypaddle Apr 2014 #67

The MRAs? CFLDem Apr 2014 #76

No, the word jumpers Warpy Apr 2014 #152

"bitch", hunh? What do you have against women? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #132

What exactly... gcomeau Apr 2014 #23

You'll probably soon find out. nt oldhippie Apr 2014 #24

I wait in breathless anticipation.... -nt gcomeau Apr 2014 #25

I'm surprised it took that long oldhippie Apr 2014 #28

4 people actually voted to hide *that*? gcomeau Apr 2014 #30

It will be hidden almost every time it is used. oldhippie Apr 2014 #31

I actually had never encountered that before. gcomeau Apr 2014 #32

Can I get the list of all the words James48 Apr 2014 #33

Seconded. AngryDem001 Apr 2014 #36

If you get the list from the P C police, would B Calm Apr 2014 #54

I've tried to get a list of the forbidden words, but .... oldhippie Apr 2014 #71

It IS Bullshit. AngryDem001 Apr 2014 #34

dick is also a word that is acceptable frylock Apr 2014 #37

and bastard itsrobert Apr 2014 #40

How so? cyberswede Apr 2014 #47

My first take was that the poster thinks all assholes are men. ;-) DesertDiamond Apr 2014 #53

I wonder why pintobean Apr 2014 #99

Really... Agschmid Apr 2014 #104

That's usually my reaction pintobean Apr 2014 #107

Bitch is what we call a female dog. IT is by necessity sexist as is "Dog" "COW" "Steer" and "BULL" Vincardog Apr 2014 #137

The poster to whom I replied suggested a double standard between "bitch" ans "asshole" cyberswede Apr 2014 #140

"dog"? Which sex does that refer to? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #141

The kind that breeds bitches. Vincardog Apr 2014 #142

"dog" is not gender (sex) specific. "bitch" is sex specific. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #143

The male sex is generally recognize as the inclusive term for the species. Dog is sex specific Vincardog Apr 2014 #144

"stud" is male specific. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #145

The "inclusive = male" assumption is at root of patriarchy & the idea that females don't count. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #146

You are picking a fight where there is none. Vincardog Apr 2014 #148

Good. "Son of a bitch" is a sexist remark. Glad we agree. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #149

Do people really need this explained to them? TorchTheWitch Apr 2014 #84

Yes, they do need this explained to them. As many times as necessary. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #147

You do not see the difference between a sexist slur and an anus? uppityperson Apr 2014 #122

forbidden by whom? lillypaddle Apr 2014 #68

Awww... Sheldon Cooper Apr 2014 #70

Unless you are describing legal firarm owners, it can be used there with no problems. n/t oneshooter Apr 2014 #69

I used a much less derogatory term once and got a post hidden BuelahWitch Apr 2014 #63

It is a sexist slur. n/t whopis01 Apr 2014 #111

Oh please... gcomeau Apr 2014 #121

It's sexist because you never see "son of a dick" as an insult. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #134

Umm, think that through. There's a pretty ridiculously obvious reason... gcomeau Apr 2014 #156

Yes, read your post. However we DO live in the 21st century where "bitch" is an insult referring ... Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #157

Yes, the use of the word *on it's own* as an epithet... gcomeau Apr 2014 #161

Maybe for you lillypaddle Apr 2014 #64

You have offenend me oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #77

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #98

Instant karma! WhiteTara Apr 2014 #2

Without doubt n/t etherealtruth Apr 2014 #50

Absolutely. 840high Apr 2014 #62

"Instant karma's gonna get you, gonna knock you off your feet..." n/t nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #81

yep eom noiretextatique Apr 2014 #138

No kidding. Warpy Apr 2014 #153

JUSTICE FOR THE DOOFUS leftyohiolib Apr 2014 #3

Glad the dog is ok...don't really care about this asshole joeybee12 Apr 2014 #5

Crap atreides1 Apr 2014 #6

I can firmly say Aerows Apr 2014 #7

Suck it, you piece of shit cop PeaceNikki Apr 2014 #9

Think of the children Politicalboi Apr 2014 #12

Uh, that's still a pretty big dog. louis-t Apr 2014 #14

that is a medium sized dog nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #89

Incompetence on so many levels. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #10

karma Liberal_in_LA Apr 2014 #13

Was the deputy's name Barney? hobbit709 Apr 2014 #15

Earnest T I think. (nm) Elwood P Dowd Apr 2014 #41

That is exactly what I was thinking cate94 Apr 2014 #51

Yup! Was thinking KARMA directed the bullet! n/t hue Apr 2014 #16

Instant Karma's gonna get you AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #17

Dog - 1 / Trigger-happy Coward - 0 Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #18

Maybe Deputy donco Apr 2014 #20

One bullet and he's got to carry it in his breast pocket. notadmblnd Apr 2014 #29

What's with the Jayhawker? KansDem Apr 2014 #21

Stop shooting our children and dogs. Disarm the cops. marble falls Apr 2014 #22

reminds me of a vid... canuckledragger Apr 2014 #26

lol. nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #94

Well done! 2naSalit Apr 2014 #128

Sounds about right -nt Bonx Apr 2014 #27

The cop should be cited for endangering the lives of the children. hue Apr 2014 #35

Seems to me that the bullet found it's proper home. 99Forever Apr 2014 #38

gee, who would ever expect a dog to agressively charge a stranger that just entered their yard? frylock Apr 2014 #39

There is no "Stand Your Ground" for dogs. Nine Apr 2014 #58

does that include the backyard, while i'm at work? frylock Apr 2014 #60

Well, let's look at what the law is in CA, where this story took place. Nine Apr 2014 #73

Inapplicable. mbperrin Apr 2014 #87

And barking to announce a stranger passiveporcupine Apr 2014 #136

You don't know the dog was only barking and not charging. Nine Apr 2014 #166

It's not inapplicable to frylock's scenario, which is what I was responding to. (nt) Nine Apr 2014 #165

ah. well there you have it. police can kill your family pet with impunity.. frylock Apr 2014 #127

No, it simply means the officer can't be considered a trespasser. Nine Apr 2014 #164

Because a dog has the cognitive abilities to recognize Depity Fife by his uniform alone, obviously. baldguy Apr 2014 #74

For Pete's sake... Nine Apr 2014 #78

Once again, not the slightest bit of evidence that this dog attacked anyone. mbperrin Apr 2014 #88

your hypothetical is just silly noiretextatique Apr 2014 #139

From the article etherealtruth Apr 2014 #158

I don't know why everyone keeps arguing with me about this. Nine Apr 2014 #162

You are right you did NOT assert that the dog actually "charged" or attacked the cop etherealtruth Apr 2014 #163

No evidence this dog attacked anybody, period. mbperrin Apr 2014 #85

The attack is presumed in the hypothetical we're discussing here. Nine Apr 2014 #100

Was the self inflicted wound also hypothetical? You offer fiction where facts are known Dragonfli Apr 2014 #130

I'm not talking hypothetical. I'm talking actual events. mbperrin Apr 2014 #131

all is well that ends well nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #42

Deputy Dumbass Gets His Due mbperrin Apr 2014 #43

Isn't there something in cop training about ... harun Apr 2014 #44

Maybe after they stitch him up, a can of Alpo might ease his pain.....idiot...that's all he deserves bkanderson76 Apr 2014 #45

Won't anyone step up to defend this brave officer? Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #46

+1 nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #82

Truth is, a far greater percentage of people are shitty mbperrin Apr 2014 #90

Yay cops! bravenak Apr 2014 #49

every cop shooting dog case is found justified. the police have to. Garion_55 Apr 2014 #52

Dumb ass. OnyxCollie Apr 2014 #55

Focusing on the awesome owner chowder66 Apr 2014 #56

I agree! StarryNite Apr 2014 #150

So a dog can never be aggressive at one point in time and unaggressive at another time? Nine Apr 2014 #57

I don't know if it was the aggressor either. ohnoyoudidnt Apr 2014 #59

A cop serving an eviction notice is allowed to enter a property uninvited. (nt) Nine Apr 2014 #72

So is a letter carrier pintobean Apr 2014 #102

No, just for getting attacked by them. (nt) Nine Apr 2014 #103

They are armed pintobean Apr 2014 #105

"a dog doing what dogs are suppose to do"!? Nine Apr 2014 #108

You go ahead and keep defending this incompetent boob. pintobean Apr 2014 #110

while you defend the concept that dogs are supposed to attack people (nt) Nine Apr 2014 #112

I did no such thing. pintobean Apr 2014 #115

Your words: Nine Apr 2014 #119

Shooting himself in the leg would indicate panic. pintobean Apr 2014 #124

The dog also doesn't know the difference between a child molester and a deliveryperson. Nine Apr 2014 #126

The evidence is right in front of your eyes, the dog did not attack the idiot Dragonfli Apr 2014 #129

Thank you. mbperrin Apr 2014 #160

Are you assuming that the officer knew the dog was there before he entered the property? mbperrin Apr 2014 #133

How many of those 10 die, so that lethal force against the dogs would have been justified? mbperrin Apr 2014 #135

Not on DU no Egnever Apr 2014 #61

Barking at a knock on the door isn't really attacking, is it? mbperrin Apr 2014 #92

No but it is agressive behavior Egnever Apr 2014 #93

Well, maybe the dumbass should lose his job for shooting himself? Or are you also defending his..... Logical Apr 2014 #79

Glock Perfection! Adrahil Apr 2014 #118

Maybe he's simply not smart enough, or enough in control of his temper, to be a cop. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #83

Never owned or been around dogs at all, have you? mbperrin Apr 2014 #91

I don't know what the time lapse was. Nine Apr 2014 #95

Your defense of authority is noted. TBF Apr 2014 #96

? Nine Apr 2014 #101

If you've ever been around dogs you'd know TBF Apr 2014 #106

Ha ha. "Diplomacy." Nine Apr 2014 #109

You don't even know what "pack" means. pintobean Apr 2014 #113

I know that you have admitted to having dogs you can't control. (nt) Nine Apr 2014 #114

That's the 2nd false accusation you've made against me. pintobean Apr 2014 #116

Sorry, I thought I was still talking to TBF. (nt) Nine Apr 2014 #117

Oh, so you meant to insult me instead? TBF Apr 2014 #120

Barney, is that you? nt lillypaddle Apr 2014 #65

Precious is a *good* dog, and deserves all the hugs & kisses & cuddles & cookies she can get. baldguy Apr 2014 #75

In other police and dog news... PoliticAverse Apr 2014 #80

Nearly a Darwin Award by this cop. nt alp227 Apr 2014 #86

Have they arrested the dog's owner for attempted murder on the cop, yet? TransitJohn Apr 2014 #97

Curious as to what the dog looks like, making a guess before reading article. uppityperson Apr 2014 #123

You know what upsets me? So many people in the U.S.A. don't truly have homes. hunter Apr 2014 #125

Standards for law enforcement are way too low tabasco Apr 2014 #151

Fucking cop! gopiscrap Apr 2014 #154

If I find this amusing, does that make me a bad person? stage left Apr 2014 #155

Riiigghhtt JJChambers Apr 2014 #159

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #167