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39. Were you a US justice in a previous life?

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Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:42 AM

Mar 2012

Those are the sort of questions that came up yesterday.

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If the law requiring you to buy private corporation health insurance is constitutional then [View all] Zalatix Mar 2012 OP

That represents a concise summary of Tuesday's questioning. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2012 #1

The law does not require you to buy insurance. It just makes you pay a penalty JDPriestly Mar 2012 #2

Is it a tax or a penalty? Riftaxe Mar 2012 #3

It is a tax and mislabelled as a purchase by our cowardly lawmakers who Skidmore Mar 2012 #45

I understand that it is a penalty that you pay only if you choose not to buy JDPriestly Mar 2012 #64

The Commerce Clause CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #4

i dont think it applies SwampG8r Mar 2012 #24

Please cite where in the Constitution insurance is exempted jeff47 Mar 2012 #62

The Constitution does not mention insurance, JDPriestly Mar 2012 #65

But why should someone be penalized for not buying something they cannot afford? sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #8

That's really cute, talking about what President Obama said back in February 2008. Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #15

What has Pres. Obama said to support the individual mandate? Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #19

so what he says today has SwampG8r Mar 2012 #25

It's too late to complain to me about what he said or didn't say. Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #30

Cute? Is that what facts are called these days? sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #28

The mandate doesn't apply to people who can't afford to buy health insurance. bornskeptic Mar 2012 #41

I don't think you were born skeptical enough. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #51

Which is why Medicaid is being expanded well above the "poverty line" jeff47 Mar 2012 #58

I also read there will be a sliding scale too. Nt marlakay Mar 2012 #67

Next thing you know they will want to edgineered Mar 2012 #5

Uh, you don't have to drive a car, you can ride a bike. Zalatix Mar 2012 #6

Polling results from Fox put me in the 1% edgineered Mar 2012 #7

yes, a drivers license is considered a "privilege" newspeak Mar 2012 #37

A drivers license is not free tabbycat31 Mar 2012 #74

not even close to being the same thing bowens43 Mar 2012 #9

Yes it is the same thing, and you have no argument for why it's not. Zalatix Mar 2012 #10

Dont forget that Dokkie Mar 2012 #16

Healthcare costs account for 17% of the GDP -- it is not the same thing. Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #20

It clears things up only for fans of MITT ROMNEY. Zalatix Mar 2012 #31

Its not even remotely in the same neighborhood, at all, whatsoever. phleshdef Mar 2012 #42

Mandates are a Republican idea. Opposing them was and is a Democratic principle. The President sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #29

Then why are the Republicans trying to kill "Obamacare"? emulatorloo Mar 2012 #34

I agree they are trying to kill the bill. Being the hypocrites they are they are using Mandates sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #36

Which one of Obama's bills hasn't the Republicans tried to kill? Zalatix Mar 2012 #54

Did Hannity just leave? edgineered Mar 2012 #11

+1 Johonny Mar 2012 #53

Because you can get sick in several states quaker bill Mar 2012 #12

Hmmm federal crop insurance is required for farmers if they want to participate. LiberalFighter Mar 2012 #35

oh fucking please cali Mar 2012 #13

You're seriously going to REGRET your attitude Zalatix Mar 2012 #55

It'll be schooling. They'll abolish public schools, and turn the 16 years of compulsory education... JVS Mar 2012 #66

You aren't forced to pay for a private corporation's school. Zalatix Mar 2012 #68

Not yet. Just wait. JVS Mar 2012 #69

if the courts leaves the law in place I hope they can limit it alc Mar 2012 #14

Gun mandate? Dokkie Mar 2012 #17

I'm more worried about privatizing social security Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #18

ACA is actually the first step toward privatizing Medicare. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #47

Where Ezra fails is it's also the first step towards Medicare-for-all jeff47 Mar 2012 #63

isnt SS basically retirement insurance? qazplm Mar 2012 #21

You are not forced to buy SS from a for profit insurance company. NCTraveler Mar 2012 #22

SS is a government program, it is not a for profit enterprise newspeak Mar 2012 #40

Agree on all points. But I would rather not think about what WS would do with SS. NCTraveler Mar 2012 #44

Does the funeral industry account for 1/6 of this nations economy? The Midway Rebel Mar 2012 #23

Or how about some Mandate the Government shoves some wand up a woman's snatch.. Bandit Mar 2012 #26

you get a tax break for paying mortgage interest Bill McBlueState Mar 2012 #27

So you are on the right wing broccoli talking point? Cool. emulatorloo Mar 2012 #32

The law forcing people to buy health insurance is a MITT ROMNEY talking point. Zalatix Mar 2012 #33

Need I point out that Romney is against Obamacare? emulatorloo Mar 2012 #38

Forcing you to buy products from a private corporation is absurd. Zalatix Mar 2012 #50

Were you a US justice in a previous life? Yo_Mama Mar 2012 #39

Burial costs are fixed, and you can't apply for insurance after you die muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #43

How about being required to buy a photo ID, and needing it to vote. hughee99 Mar 2012 #46

Ah yes, the voter ID laws where your freely-provided SS card isn't good enough Zalatix Mar 2012 #59

Not at all, just that if the federal government has the authority to do such things, hughee99 Mar 2012 #61

voter ID laws Dokkie Mar 2012 #77

True, but one of the arguments against such laws is that hughee99 Mar 2012 #78

Same talking point as Justice Scalia? FSogol Mar 2012 #48

It's not a mandate. You can choose not to buy in. Period. librechik Mar 2012 #49

Not true. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #52

hypothetically. I will have to wait and see how this shakes out. However, librechik Mar 2012 #56

What happens if the fed govt bypasses private health insurance? LiberalFighter Mar 2012 #57

Your burial costs are already covered by Social Security jeff47 Mar 2012 #60

Actually, you can buy insurance to get tax relief. tinrobot Mar 2012 #70

I already do quaker bill Mar 2012 #71

Are mortgage interest deductions unconstitutional as well? tinrobot Mar 2012 #72

That's fine but Hospitals shouldn't be required to treat you by the Feds either if you cbdo2007 Mar 2012 #73

Great Republican talking point there! Zalatix Mar 2012 #75

Dude---your Op is a republican talking point. trumad Mar 2012 #76

The entire forced health insurance purchase idea is a GOP talking point Zalatix Mar 2012 #79