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In reply to the discussion: Why are you people trying to start a war that no one will win? [View all]nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I do not read the other side, I get unfiltered, 100% directly from folks in the field ok. So yes, I have been regaled with stories and how they are going to defeat the US Government and how they do not pay taxes... I could go on.
That said, they see this backing down as a victory, as the shot around the world, as their 4th of July and as a way to wake up the masses.
They are dangerous, but you do not back down from yes, terrorists. And I give Harry Reid credit, he deals with these asshats regularly.
Now let me tell you a real story. We covered a meet your pol on Saturday, because of these asshats we actually had a talk on exit strategies and how to survive. Guess what? It was one of those where GIffords was shot.
What you are asking all is to curl up and surrender, essentially.
Now what you said about media, mostly true, but that is because media in the race to get the scoop, rarely does any of the background anymore. I did a lot of that way back and continue these days due to these ass hats. So yes I know the differences between the sovereign, the militias, (they are not necessary the same) the oath-keepers, and a few others.
And they got wings, and they will now go on and do more damage. The Turner Diaries presupposed an attack on a Federal building. Why McVeign, a member of the sovereign movement, went after OKC. I do not expect the second american revolution to emerge from these guys. On the other hand, I expect a lot of violence, and something more like the infitadah and not the formations of the civil war.
And no, asking people to back down because the scary people have better body armor than the beat cops is like asking people to back down because the beat cops had 38s and the bad guys had automatics. You and I know how PDs responded to that.