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In reply to the discussion: What pseudoscience is and is not. [View all]bvar22
(39,909 posts)25. This is excerpted from another thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024845552
(post by bvar22)
Did you NOT say this? (In reference to the possibilities of Bee Sting Therapy)
That sounds dismissive.
At any rate, you have been forced to admit to the possibility of occasions where "Woo" is EFFECTIVE.
I STAND by original statement:
[font]Everything is "Woo", until it isn't.[/font]
THAT is the history of Science,
and thankfully, it is an ongoing relationship TODAY.
We have barely begun to Understand our universe.
Our Science is at the INFANT stage.
There is much more that we don't understand that what we have deciphered.
To close a mind to that which we don't yet understand
is to close a mind to the as yet undiscovered and untested possibilities of our Universe.
Sad, really.
I'm glad that the best and the brightest in our Scientific Community are STILL searching for "Woo",
and still testing it for the endless possibilities.
THEY will give us gifts in the future.
The others who are stuck in a very narrow understanding of Science's relationship to "Woo",
well..... there is a need for the test tube washers.
I support the Best & the Brightest Scientist that are NOW engaged in searching the Amazon
for native "Woo", and testing them for validity.
"Everything is "Woo"... until it isn't"---bvar22
You know, chewing Willow Bark still makes the headache go away.
(post by bvar22)
Did you NOT say this? (In reference to the possibilities of Bee Sting Therapy)
" There's no conclusive evidence that shows apitherapy is effective at treating what it claims it treats, other than the usual anecdotal evidence and faulty cause-effect assumptions that dominates alternative medicine circles. "
That sounds dismissive.
At any rate, you have been forced to admit to the possibility of occasions where "Woo" is EFFECTIVE.
I STAND by original statement:
[font]Everything is "Woo", until it isn't.[/font]
THAT is the history of Science,
and thankfully, it is an ongoing relationship TODAY.
We have barely begun to Understand our universe.
Our Science is at the INFANT stage.
There is much more that we don't understand that what we have deciphered.
To close a mind to that which we don't yet understand
is to close a mind to the as yet undiscovered and untested possibilities of our Universe.
Sad, really.
I'm glad that the best and the brightest in our Scientific Community are STILL searching for "Woo",
and still testing it for the endless possibilities.
THEY will give us gifts in the future.
The others who are stuck in a very narrow understanding of Science's relationship to "Woo",
well..... there is a need for the test tube washers.
I support the Best & the Brightest Scientist that are NOW engaged in searching the Amazon
for native "Woo", and testing them for validity.
"Everything is "Woo"... until it isn't"---bvar22
You know, chewing Willow Bark still makes the headache go away.
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The issue that gets danced around- Materialism is NOT the de facto philosophy of science.
KittyWampus
Apr 2014
#1
"I don't know anybody who practices science that does not practice methodological materialism."
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#30
Well, Dawkins is definitely one I would put in the methodological materialist column.
longship
Apr 2014
#35
Agreed. Victor Stenger makes this very point in his "God:The Failed Hypothesis"
longship
Apr 2014
#68
So how does a so-called "idealist" decide which is the most effective treatment for a disease?
Silent3
Apr 2014
#11
Exactly! And to be truthful.....materialism, or at least of the ontological Dawkinsian type.........
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#27
You're not telling me that you don't actually have a degree in philosophy?
Democracyinkind
Apr 2014
#66
I always wonder why people seem to think that physicality makes things less real.
dorkulon
Apr 2014
#31
I've been trying to remember a word for the past few days, and I just did: Iatrogenic
Electric Monk
Apr 2014
#5
Wow, you make a lot of assumptions. My point was, mainstream modern medicine still has faults. nt
Electric Monk
Apr 2014
#12
I was basically agreeing with you, and introducing you (and others) to a new word
Electric Monk
Apr 2014
#15
That there is a small percentage of people who end up worse off, not better, for having seen an MD.
Electric Monk
Apr 2014
#41
Here are some considerations for anyone here examining "woo" vs "non-woo" science
truedelphi
Apr 2014
#17
Research that indicates Conservatives have compassion and ethics is clearly pseudoscience
nikto
Apr 2014
#20
we can call it the "bad boyfriend" model of science: his word is law and eternal, and he can
MisterP
Apr 2014
#26
A lot of discussion revolves around medicine. But medicine is not science; it is technology.
FarCenter
Apr 2014
#32
Some Examples of Pseudoscience - Crop Circles, UFO Phenomena, Astrology,
Agnosticsherbet
Apr 2014
#60