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Bluenorthwest

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27. Of course Ted primaried a sitting Democratic President as well.

Mon Apr 21, 2014, 01:58 PM

Apr 2014

He did not simply hold that position, he refused to run when asked then 4 years later elbowed our Party out of power when he decided that he wanted to run and run right now.

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Warren repeats she's 'not running for president' [View all] Beacool Apr 2014 OP

I believe her. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #1

I believe her too. Beacool Apr 2014 #12

I believe her too. I don't think she'll start running for another 18 months or so. Scuba Apr 2014 #2

I like the way you think. bunnies Apr 2014 #28

Me too. Aerows Apr 2014 #147

I'll rule that out when she adds Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #29

Run, Bernie, run. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #3

He'd have to join a party first. nt onehandle Apr 2014 #5

No, he doesn't. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #7

Specifically, he'd have to join the Democratic Party to fit within DU's TOS for promotion. nt onehandle Apr 2014 #10

Maybe he will. Maybe he won't. But, people will support and vote for him either way. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #18

No he won't if he were going to change affiliation he would have done it by now... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #33

Or, should we toss a good candidate under the bus because he's not a Democrat? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #62

We don't toss him....DU can never promote him unless he is a Democrat....per the VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #69

So? If Hillary changes her affiliation to Independent, will supporting her be naughty? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #76

hahahahahahaahahqahahahahahah VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #78

And, your answer is? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #86

That's theoretical....no response required... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #88

So is Hillary's candidacy...theoretical. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #89

Hillary Clinton running as an Independent is beyond theoretical....that delusional! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #90

Probably. I'm just trying to figure out if you will vote for a brand no matter what? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #93

I vote for whomever wins the Primary....simple as THAT. VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #97

Thank you. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #99

My party affiliation is not hypothetical...its a fact. VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #102

So is mine. I'm a Democrat. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #107

That's fine, but afaik Adrahil Apr 2014 #150

Just a thought, DU's TOS for promotion were inspired by Ralph Nader... Hippo_Tron Apr 2014 #119

Tierra, Bernie is not electable in this country. Beacool Apr 2014 #13

Because he's a good man and a socialist are compelling reasons to vote for him. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #20

You may feel that way, but the majority of people would not in a general election. Beacool Apr 2014 #22

no, that is how people come to believe the "undetectable" meme G_j Apr 2014 #24

Ah, the folks who claim they know the future, same folks who said 2008 was going to be Hillary v Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #25

No one is sliming anyone. Beacool Apr 2014 #57

Let me ask you something, Beacool... What if Hillary decides she would rather be home with ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #67

Or, if Hillary were to change her registration to Independent and run on the same platform? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #72

Considering her record, if she moved to Independent, I would consider that a move to the right ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #77

Would you consider that being loyal to a brand rather than principles? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #83

I would consider such a move "stupid". nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #85

Do you consider her voting for the Iraq Way "stupid"? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #87

That she was gullible enough (or possessed an agenda) is precisely why I'm not ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #91

Well, let's just say I'm chomping at the bit even less than you are. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #94

Who will you support if she is not the nominee? EDITED: ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #98

That would depend on the nominee. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #103

Well, we agree on Hillary for the same reasons. Until there's a viable alternative, the Democratic ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #105

The comment was in reference to Bernie Sanders, not Warren. Beacool Apr 2014 #114

Oh, well. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #63

Not a "Democratic Underground". VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #34

Oh, well. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #64

Indeed... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #68

Perhaps advocating third-party candidates should be alerted? What do you think? nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #73

I don't know....I rarely to never alert myself..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #75

You "rarely to never" alert... Good for you! ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #79

Alerting wasn't my idea now was it? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #82

It's not election season. Chill. n/t winter is coming Apr 2014 #115

DU TOS doesn't specify that it's in effect only during election season. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #124

Well, if you'd like to alert on someone for discussing the possible candidacy of someone winter is coming Apr 2014 #126

I have no reason for such a stupid alert. Also, nowhere did I say that it would be me alerting, only ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #130

You were just wondering out loud. Riiiiiight. n/t winter is coming Apr 2014 #131

Riiiiiight. As a matter of fact, I was. Now what? Also, I find ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #132

That's lovely, and pretty much irrelevant. Adrahil Apr 2014 #151

D'accord. I'm tired of being force-fed pre-ordained centrists. marmar Apr 2014 #19

Direct. Again. Anyone who thinks she's lying is kidding themselves. nt onehandle Apr 2014 #4

I think so too. Beacool Apr 2014 #14

This wonderful woman will do what the great man who once held this seat did - hold the position jwirr Apr 2014 #6

Of course Ted primaried a sitting Democratic President as well. Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #27

If Nader gave us Bush, then Teddy gave us Reagan. Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #32

He was a DEMOCRAT primarying a Democrat....much different. VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #35

He was a raging coked-up alcoholic with a cheating problem and a marriage on the rocks when he did MADem Apr 2014 #110

Bummer. k&r for Elizabeth Warren. n/t Laelth Apr 2014 #8

Don't be, she will continue to be a positive influence for years to come. Beacool Apr 2014 #16

You're being very kind, and I appreciate it. Laelth Apr 2014 #46

I think that both Elizabeth and Hillary are good women. Beacool Apr 2014 #56

I would prefer that she did ... Trajan Apr 2014 #9

Keep playing offense from the Senate instead of becoming a professional fundraiser BeyondGeography Apr 2014 #11

Yep. Lucinda Apr 2014 #15

I think that Ted Kennedy did quite well in the seat she now holds. Beacool Apr 2014 #17

She's already a professional fundraiser, one of the best in the Democratic Party Hippo_Tron Apr 2014 #138

Yeah, well, ok...I left out, "full-time" BeyondGeography Apr 2014 #145

As of right this moment she's not running. Her "definitive" statement does not say ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #21

She's not Obama. Beacool Apr 2014 #23

But she's a politician and as the other poster said they all say 'I won't' until they say 'I am'. Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #31

She has also put her support behind Hillary Clinton....but I am sure you are going to dismiss VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #36

Of course she has. Because she has not yet decided to run herself. I, for one, intend ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #41

No because the Women of the Senate have all signed a Letter encouraging Hillary to run. VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #74

Oh, you are so wrong. I don't dismiss her words at all. Indeed, I take them quite literally. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #81

Whatevs.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #84

Don't care, the future of the country and the world is the discussion how to make that future viable TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #146

The prophets engage in Biblical literalism as they parse her meaning for anything other than the obv LanternWaste Apr 2014 #111

You're right. See my post #45. She very clearly left out "IN 2016" in her response. Dawgs Apr 2014 #47

You would think that DUers would understand that. Which begs a question... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #52

Exactly. No doubt there are a few Hillary supporters that don't want to believe it. n/t Dawgs Apr 2014 #55

The fact is, she is not running for president. She is currently BEING U.S. Senator from MA. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #60

Too late for me to join this party? Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #26

Hi, Cali. Beacool Apr 2014 #43

and something for you... dionysus Apr 2014 #80

A lamb bankie!!!! Beacool Apr 2014 #117

anything for you, Bea. dionysus Apr 2014 #148

Ahhhhhh, so sweet. Beacool Apr 2014 #152

I'll believe her "no" after we know Hillary's intentions. karadax Apr 2014 #30

Hillary is going to run.....you might as well get used to that idea.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #37

Neither is Hillary. Until she is. closeupready Apr 2014 #38

No, Hillary has been saying of late that she's thinking about it. Beacool Apr 2014 #44

You are stating Hillary's strategy while essentially denying that Warren has one of her own. As ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #71

Warren's strategy seems to be in people's imagination. Beacool Apr 2014 #118

Your entire post is wrong. So I wont bother to continue this circular debate with you. ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #121

OK, time will tell............ Beacool Apr 2014 #123

She will be in the debates. Bookmark it! And... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #125

Oh, that sounds like such a sacrifice. Beacool Apr 2014 #153

One of her main appeals is that she means what she says...She says she's not running Rowdyboy Apr 2014 #39

She isn't running. At this moment, she is not running. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #42

If Hillary loses, Warren will be the clear 2020 frontrunner. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #40

Why would it be weird? Beacool Apr 2014 #48

She IS running for President Dawgs Apr 2014 #45

LOL!! Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #49

Did you watch her on "Sunday Morning" or are you getting nervous? Dawgs Apr 2014 #53

The question is: HOW confident are you that she'll run? brooklynite Apr 2014 #59

If Warren doesn't run I'll support Bernie, who will be running. Dawgs Apr 2014 #61

Out of curiosity, would you consider Brian Schweitzer? Hippo_Tron Apr 2014 #136

Seems like a good guy, but not what we need right now. n/t Dawgs Apr 2014 #156

Seriously? Beacool Apr 2014 #50

Agree. I might be wrong. Dawgs Apr 2014 #58

I think more realistically she hasn't ruled it out, I don't think she's decided she's running Hippo_Tron Apr 2014 #129

That's a shame. IronGate Apr 2014 #51

Of course not, she would not go back on her pledge. joshcryer Apr 2014 #54

I believe this as much DonCoquixote Apr 2014 #65

I believe her which is why we need to find another progressive to run a viable campaign in 2016 Douglas Carpenter Apr 2014 #66

There you go, posing a problem, laying it right out there yourself, without so much as a ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #104

The time for this was a year ago: joshcryer Apr 2014 #149

I don't know whether or not it is possible to defeat Wall Street power and its candidates even Douglas Carpenter Apr 2014 #154

The problem will be ability to raise funding. joshcryer Apr 2014 #155

I Agree that the biggest problem for the authentically progressive is to raise enough funds to be Douglas Carpenter Apr 2014 #157

She sure as hell should Aerows Apr 2014 #70

Would love the chance to have her in our primary. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #92

Bookmark this: Warren will be in the debates. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #95

I hope so. Love EW. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #100

Can you imagine the debates with her in the mix? Not only would the other candidates have to ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #101

I think it is EW who will have to up her game, and she will do so successfully. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #106

Fair points. She will excel, indeed, at whatever she does. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #109

I'd personally much rather see her as Fed chair. Initech Apr 2014 #96

I think she's running for FED CHAIR. MADem Apr 2014 #108

Same as I have been saying. Beacool Apr 2014 #120

I think running for Senate killed any chance of her as Fed Chair Hippo_Tron Apr 2014 #134

Fed Chairs--up until recently--haven't been women, either. MADem Apr 2014 #143

There is a lot of delusion in this thread... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #112

She did not say she was "not going to run", only that she is "not running"... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #122

Translation.. get over it and focus on things that are a real and present danger... DCBob Apr 2014 #113

Because the best way to get people's minds off 2016 is to talk about it. winter is coming Apr 2014 #116

She only says that because she is really running treestar Apr 2014 #127

But people have "Warren 2016" sig lines... SidDithers Apr 2014 #128

What about it? ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #133

We can switch them to "Stop Hillary" at some point. nt Logical Apr 2014 #139

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I don't know who that is, but I seriously doubt it. arcane1 Apr 2014 #137

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It's not as though she suddenly changed her mind. arcane1 Apr 2014 #141

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Well how bout SCOTUS, RBG's spot? lonestarnot Apr 2014 #144

Still not voting for Hillary. Sorry. nt Romulox Apr 2014 #158

I'll vote for the Democratic nominee. Beacool Apr 2014 #159

At this point, who heads the ticket in 2016 is irrelevant Skidmore Apr 2014 #160

If thats what she wants then so be it. William769 Apr 2014 #161

So tragic. Hopefully Bernie will run. nt Zorra Apr 2014 #162