Why are you people trying to start a war that no one will win?

[Savannahmann]

137. Yeah, they've won the war on terror haven't they?

Oh wait. Darn it, no they haven't. That's OK, because helicopters like that helped us win in Viet-Nam. Or Iraq, or somewhere. Damn it we won somewhere with Helicopters didn't we? Somalia was an excellent example of how Helicopters can bring victory against a determined enemy.

Let me check with my history sources and get back with you.

Damn it you are sounding like a Republican Chickenhawk with this need flashy crap to win a war. That flashy technology looks awesome, and can do some impressive things. But it can't win a war. Otherwise the War on Terror would be won. The Soviets used really impressive helicopters like the Hind in Afghanistan, and they didn't win either.

Don't you get it? I mean think for yourself for a change. If you open up on American Citizens with helicopters like that or the Specter gunships in the other post you will have a massive uprising. The ACLU will file lawsuits claiming you denied the American Citizens their due process under law. You violated Posse Comitatus, and while you were at it aligned thousands of new enemies against you. Haven't you been paying attention in Afghanistan or Iraq? Because that is all we are accomplishing with the War on Terror bombing from above, is creating new enemies.

The way to handle this is not to give into their meme and make them martyrs or soldiers for whatever version of America they think they are fighting for. But to handle them as criminals. Try them in criminal court. By calling them terrorists you let people know that sometime in the future, they may be considered hero's like Mandela who was also called a Terrorist by this nation.

Think it through man. The Irish Republican Army always got lots of funding from the Irish American community especially in New York, Boston, and Chicago. That is despite the fact that they were "terrorists". Yaser Arafat was a Terrorist and a leader of a Terrorist Organization who was met with many times by the US Government officially in an effort to find a peaceful solution to the problems of the region. Killing Osama bin Laden didn't do shit to stop Al Queda, hell they named a Library after him in Pakistan.

Haven't we learned yet? That when we hate, we inevitably become the thing we hate? We hate the RW militarized bomb the crap out of them chickenhawks that wanted to rule the world during the Bush years. But now we want to use the same military tech to bomb the crap out of our enemies.

Oh and for them being the .003%. The Southern Poverty Law Center shows 939 active hate groups. Those are just the groups that espouse hate toward minorities and that sort of thing. If each group has ten members, that is just about 94,000 people right there. What about all the individuals that aren't part of those groups? Most of those groups have far more than ten members each. Many of them have several hundred members. Are you sure you want to minimize them that way? I only ask because if they're no real threat due to their insignificant numbers, why would we need a twenty million dollar attack helicopter designed to take on tanks to fight the .003%?