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7. The ending of John le Carre's "Our Kind of Traitor" ..

Mon Apr 21, 2014, 04:12 PM

Apr 2014

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which I just finished reading, essentially leaves the reader with the full weight of your point in this OP.

It was a really a downer, but reality non the less. This book was published in 2010, but the setting was 2008 banking and financial crises in hand and the Oligarchs holding high office in banking and government in London/Switzerland (EU) and Russia, reap the benefits of mass corruption involving money laundering to the tune of Multi-Billions possibly trillions (no one can say with certainty)..

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The ending of John le Carre's "Our Kind of Traitor" .. 2banon Apr 2014 #7

Than you for the information. Dragonfli Apr 2014 #19

I just deleted the ending summary short version from my post 2banon Apr 2014 #32

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Read it again. Revolution is in there. eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #58

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Point out the part pushing revolution, and you may have a point. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2014 #61

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