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In reply to the discussion: Warren repeats she's 'not running for president' [View all]TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)broadly which isn't about clearing the way for Madame Inevitable or not pressuring folks that aren't interested.
I have no personal fixation on Warren, I don't vibe her as particularly liberal (I see her as pre 1980 model middle of the road, which is probably why she was a Republican, she likely holds the same values and has been left behind as a relic from a different age of politics) and am freshly dubious of the "clean slate" candidates. Don't like the universe of unknown positions and worldviews, her economics are comparatively excellent but I find it shocking that ANYBODY minus the most Chamber of Commerce loving motherfuckers of all space and time making making the Ferengi look like a race of Mother Theresa's would call anything she has championed radical in any way. That is astounding to me she is about transparency and consumer awareness and at the most EXTREME is a ref on the field.
A generation ago this was all common sense, basic stuff that even most Republicans could not only get behind but would describe in terms like obvious and necessary, otherwise all you have is an extraction scheme operating under the blessing of the law.
Okay, so all the Republicans turned into Birchers...GRANTED...but why the hell have basic rules of the road, clearly posted, and maybe enforced become kRaZy among seemingly a lot Democrats. I'm sorry but if this isn't basic shit in "the big tent" then we have lost our way. The politicians are one thing but acting in concert we can fix that but when the grassroots are that poisoned the plant is likely to die no matter how many clap with all their hearts, Tink is going to kick the bucket.
Why? Because you can't fix stupid is why. These fundamental consumer protections are for US to keep us from being prey for the vultures.
I tell you what, I can't say that I've once EVAH seen or heard any actual objections articulated to these policies sooo beyond the pale leftist. Just a lot of "too liberal", "the majority of Americans will never accept...", and other senseless blather but no real argument on the merits.
If this stuff is "too far" then fuck this circus tent. You cannot possibly have anything like common cause if that is the case or if there are some arguments FINE but enough of the bullshit and get on with the substance, if there is no substance then the poo poo crowd can only be salting our ground.
Warren is just shorthand for a basic American set of common sense values, she is the stalking horse for the ideas she'll be pushed until she gets in or doesn't and someone else picks up the standard but I think it has to be accepted that demand has to be clear to get what is desired in a market dominated by a big name brand.
So, it doesn't matter what Warren's intentions are or if she supports Hillary or anybody else. Doesn't matter what she says or even ultimately what she does because the actual person is not mission critical but rather the ideas and policies that need to be implemented.
Show the market and it will be filled.