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117. IMO Snowden was a naive computer geek . . .

Tue Apr 22, 2014, 12:17 AM

Apr 2014

who got in way over his head. He went too far with the international revelations about our covert operations.

I agree with the domestic revelations but he didn't stop there. His fans won't acknowledge that — too hard I guess for them to process, or admit, that their hero is also a defector who divulged details of covert international operations.

And he may very well have been turned/worked by a seasoned operative who look for young, naive innocents in security positions.

Don't think Snowden will be vindicated at all — and making a Putin stooge of himself in the Q&A appearance seems to be the beginning of the unraveling of the hero worship around him.

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Snowden is a hero [View all] Harmony Blue Apr 2014 OP

Now you did it DJ13 Apr 2014 #1

100% Agreed billhicks76 Apr 2014 #87

Do not agree brush Apr 2014 #97

If you were at all aware of what happened to all the other Whistle Blowers before him who sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #100

IMO Snowden was a naive computer geek . . . brush Apr 2014 #117

Thank you, Sabrina 1. vlakitti Apr 2014 #127

Very well said, vlakitti -- I agree. pacalo Apr 2014 #131

It's amazing that there are a few, very loud, people who don't get that MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #129

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #2

especially to Democrats. nt grasswire Apr 2014 #4

"Democrats" don't hype Putin, and ProSense Apr 2014 #6

Democrats dont hate whistle-blowers. Democrats dont obsess over rhett o rick Apr 2014 #34

Democrats ProSense Apr 2014 #36

Well you agree with Glen Beck, Sara Palin and Lindsey Graeme on this zeemike Apr 2014 #49

I agree that ProSense Apr 2014 #50

Hey, Snowden is Putin's hero as long as Snowden is Putin's patsy. Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #55

Well I don't believe that it was a screw up zeemike Apr 2014 #61

It didn't take a "TV" to see that this was an embarrassing event. ProSense Apr 2014 #67

Who is they? zeemike Apr 2014 #69

"They" ProSense Apr 2014 #70

So if I am an "ally" of his I have to agree it was a mistake? zeemike Apr 2014 #74

What? ProSense Apr 2014 #75

What his lawyer said was... zeemike Apr 2014 #78

Wrong ProSense Apr 2014 #93

Right, like Al Gore suggested he invented the internet. zeemike Apr 2014 #118

I dont give a crap about what he does. He can do a terrible job on dancing with the rhett o rick Apr 2014 #92

Another ProSense Apr 2014 #94

And another distortion. I think that the obsession rhett o rick Apr 2014 #102

Nope, ProSense Apr 2014 #104

Democrats don't change their views on the principles they espoused as soon as there is a change sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #144

Together, Putin and Snowden... nikto Apr 2014 #111

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #13

Because fundamentally all humans fall into two categories Harmony Blue Apr 2014 #22

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #25

Quite a few ProSense Apr 2014 #3

Post the one with millenials Harmony Blue Apr 2014 #5

The one in which ProSense Apr 2014 #8

57% support of Snowden! Harmony Blue Apr 2014 #10

That the number that states it was a public service; They split evenly on prosecution ProSense Apr 2014 #19

A split is a postive thing Harmony Blue Apr 2014 #24

LOL! n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #27

HAIL HYDRA! whatchamacallit Apr 2014 #32

Lol! neverforget Apr 2014 #128

That survey is from JANUARY. grasswire Apr 2014 #7

LOL! The Pew article is from last week, and mentions the survey. ProSense Apr 2014 #11

copying your post here for the record. grasswire Apr 2014 #20

LOL! Good job. n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #21

This is the most dishonest post I've seen you make. grasswire Apr 2014 #12

Stop panicking. Pew: NSA coverage wins Pulitzer, but Americans remain divided on Snowden leaks ProSense Apr 2014 #16

Hey, ProSense Apr 2014 #23

whatever you want to call him G_j Apr 2014 #96

"The world is better off" because he played Putin's tool? n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #98

quite frankly G_j Apr 2014 #133

No, he's a criminal. eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #9

Explain Harmony Blue Apr 2014 #15

Your mind is made up. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #18

So I suppose you have made up your mind as well Harmony Blue Apr 2014 #26

Snowden lied, big time. Not a hero in my book uhnope Apr 2014 #14

If they lied why would the U.S. government Harmony Blue Apr 2014 #17

The Dana Priest piece is the final truth? elias49 Apr 2014 #28

Gimme me break. Here are Snowden's claims. They are still BS now like they were when he made them: uhnope Apr 2014 #89

LOL, the dailykos article is ill-informed. Vattel Apr 2014 #31

This is old news from August 9/2012. Much has been released since then and KoKo Apr 2014 #43

It was August 9th 2013..what's been released since then? nt SunsetDreams Apr 2014 #130

I heard someone say that if a guy steals you TV....but in the process... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #29

He deserves a medal... SidDithers Apr 2014 #30

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #33

What should he have done instead? BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #35

Good post Harmony Blue Apr 2014 #40

Can every man of color in the US have the same excuse about Channels being closed? FUCK NO... uponit7771 Apr 2014 #122

Whistleblower protections are very weak BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #125

Again, men of color in the US can say the same thing but not get the benefit of the doubt that is uponit7771 Apr 2014 #126

I think so, as well n/t Aerows Apr 2014 #37

I thought it was not about Eddie treestar Apr 2014 #38

Those pesky details no one mentions! nt babylonsister Apr 2014 #39

No Proof That Anything Was Divulged To The South China Post - Already Debunked cantbeserious Apr 2014 #42

Not accurate ProSense Apr 2014 #62

Already Debunked cantbeserious Apr 2014 #73

Link to piece that "debunked" Snowden's own words? n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #77

No Proof That Anything Was Divulged To The South China Post - Already Debunked cantbeserious Apr 2014 #79

You clearly have no link. n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #80

You Clearly Have Not Read All The Posts At DU cantbeserious Apr 2014 #88

Like 99.989% of all humans on Earth haven't done that, don't see what that proves and you've. uponit7771 Apr 2014 #120

Your Responsibility To Keep Abreast Of Information cantbeserious Apr 2014 #132

What you're saying is false, your responsibility to stay accurate uponit7771 Apr 2014 #143

Not My Responsibility To Sort Through The False Claims Made By Others cantbeserious Apr 2014 #145

"You Clearly Have Not Read All The Posts At DU" NCTraveler Apr 2014 #138

Personal Denigration - One Of The Logical Fallacies cantbeserious Apr 2014 #140

Here NCTraveler Apr 2014 #142

This message was self-deleted by its author wendylaroux Apr 2014 #153

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2014 #119

Thank You Snowden - Thank You Greenwald - Please Keep Up The Good Work cantbeserious Apr 2014 #41

Absolutely. Pulitzer Prize and Polk Award. Highest levels in Journalism... KoKo Apr 2014 #46

Charles Krauthammer, Kathleen Parker, George Will ProSense Apr 2014 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author Logical Apr 2014 #44

"idiots who hate Snowden" You're being too kind. L0oniX Apr 2014 #51

True. You might get some clueless ones on the jury. nt Logical Apr 2014 #53

What's more ProSense Apr 2014 #56

It bothers you all of the sudden your hero decided to discuss NSA abuses. I love it! And watching... Logical Apr 2014 #60

LOL! ProSense Apr 2014 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #137

So did Ted Bundy Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #57

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #58

Some has difficulty understanding, eh? Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #65

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2014 #121

I thought it wasn't about Snowden? Pick a f*cking lane people. KittyWampus Apr 2014 #45

The worship of this guy around here is just plain bizarre. BlueStater Apr 2014 #47

What is more bizarre zeemike Apr 2014 #59

What bill of rights has been thrown out? Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #68

The forth amendment. zeemike Apr 2014 #71

What about the probable cause, you have to take the entire Fourth Amendment. Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #72

What about probable cause? zeemike Apr 2014 #76

Businesses are also subject to warrants. Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #83

Yes for documents about their business zeemike Apr 2014 #86

You missed, wrong, the records belongs to the companies. Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #123

And the probable cause is? zeemike Apr 2014 #124

There has been groups located through call patterns so there is Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #135

Sure. And I guess Obama is Repub lite, huh? Are all white people "privileged", too? AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #52

I must be the only one who just doesn't care about him Shivering Jemmy Apr 2014 #54

sounds like a ground swell. mt arely staircase Apr 2014 #64

k/r 840high Apr 2014 #66

Damn right he is. DeSwiss Apr 2014 #81

They Just Can't Deal With It... What If He Wins The Nobel ??? WillyT Apr 2014 #82

Snowden could have been a hero. nt greyl Apr 2014 #84

A hero to Putin and his boys. BenzoDia Apr 2014 #85

He is Aerows Apr 2014 #90

Chicken Little is a hero because a drop of rain fell after he said the sky was falling uhnope Apr 2014 #91

Not even a club sandwich. N/t zappaman Apr 2014 #95

He's got more bacon Aerows Apr 2014 #99

Nah, it's cheese he's loaded on. zappaman Apr 2014 #101

More guts than you Aerows Apr 2014 #103

Lol. zappaman Apr 2014 #105

I'm still here. Aerows Apr 2014 #106

As much of a jab as yours was I suppose. zappaman Apr 2014 #107

No, that was a personal attack Aerows Apr 2014 #109

Lol. zappaman Apr 2014 #110

Oh my Aerows Apr 2014 #114

Lol. zappaman Apr 2014 #116

By the way zappaman Apr 2014 #108

I know Aerows Apr 2014 #112

I knew that? zappaman Apr 2014 #113

A hero to some, a nightmare to others Dragonfli Apr 2014 #115

A hero for the Tea Party. . B Calm Apr 2014 #134

A hero for anyone who does not like their rights trampled on. dilby Apr 2014 #141

YAWN B Calm Apr 2014 #149

If it was not wrong why not just admit to it in the begining. dilby Apr 2014 #150

obviously there was a benefit for some. grasswire Apr 2014 #155

Extremely flawed people can be heroic. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #136

Snowden's an asshole, but he did what had to be done. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #139

The same thing happened with Daniel Ellsberg. bvar22 Apr 2014 #146

Snowden is an accused felon who fled to Russia Progressive dog Apr 2014 #147

I think he's a wonderful topic for column inches in the gossip section of a daily rag... LanternWaste Apr 2014 #148

Listen folks.,The issue is complicated, really mylye2222 Apr 2014 #151

Bears repeating. WilliamPitt Apr 2014 #152

indeed nt grasswire Apr 2014 #154