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In reply to the discussion: Starbucks Boycott Over Marriage Equality Spurs Tenfold Backlash [View all]iverglas
(38,549 posts)53. you say it like it's a bad thing
We've worked with them <the NRA-ILA>, sure. They funded our 2nd and 3rd Amicus Curie Briefs. We still criticize them for being too liberal on the issue of Gun Rights.
"Too liberal"?
Strange choice of words ...
I've spent 10+ years here being told that the gun militant agenda is the real "liberal" way.
As for the "enemies list", it was nothing more than a list of groups that had taken a public stance against the 2nd Amendment. Nor were we the group to create the list, we merely allowed a copy to be passed on.
I think that is really quite false.
Had the two Democratic Party organizations on the hit list "taken a public stance against the 2nd Amendment"? Had any of the churches? Any of the African-American interest organizations? Any of the celebrities? Anybody at all, really?
Never mind your interpretation of the thing. I'd like to see the statements made against the second amendment.
http://www.lp.org/platform
1.3 Personal Relationships
Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government's treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships.
Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government's treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships.
Just to clarify: the US Libertarian Party does not advocate same-sex marriage rights.
Any problem?
There's lots more there for the curious.
2.8 Education
Education, like any other service, is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Schools should be managed locally to achieve greater accountability and parental involvement. Recognizing that the education of children is inextricably linked to moral values, we would return authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government. In particular, parents should have control of and responsibility for all funds expended for their children's education.
2.9 Health Care
We favor restoring and reviving a free market health care system. We recognize the freedom of individuals to determine the level of health insurance they want, the level of health care they want, the care providers they want, the medicines and treatments they will use and all other aspects of their medical care, including end-of-life decisions. People should be free to purchase health insurance across state lines.
2.10 Retirement and Income Security
Retirement planning is the responsibility of the individual, not the government. Libertarians would phase out the current government-sponsored Social Security system and transition to a private voluntary system. The proper and most effective source of help for the poor is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals. We believe members of society will become more charitable and civil society will be strengthened as government reduces its activity in this realm.
Education, like any other service, is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Schools should be managed locally to achieve greater accountability and parental involvement. Recognizing that the education of children is inextricably linked to moral values, we would return authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government. In particular, parents should have control of and responsibility for all funds expended for their children's education.
2.9 Health Care
We favor restoring and reviving a free market health care system. We recognize the freedom of individuals to determine the level of health insurance they want, the level of health care they want, the care providers they want, the medicines and treatments they will use and all other aspects of their medical care, including end-of-life decisions. People should be free to purchase health insurance across state lines.
2.10 Retirement and Income Security
Retirement planning is the responsibility of the individual, not the government. Libertarians would phase out the current government-sponsored Social Security system and transition to a private voluntary system. The proper and most effective source of help for the poor is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals. We believe members of society will become more charitable and civil society will be strengthened as government reduces its activity in this realm.
This is what the Pink Pistols was founded to drum up support for.
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Ask all the questions you want. That does not mean though to expect an answer.
William769
Mar 2012
#32
I know, it was already planned. And then when we got there, the shooting range was packed...
Ian David
Mar 2012
#59
It might have been a .44 magnum, not a .357. I remember it had bullets the size of my thumb.
Ian David
Mar 2012
#78
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
ellisonz
Mar 2012
#107