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In reply to the discussion: Why Economist Thomas Piketty Has Scared the Pants Off the American Right [View all]Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,477 posts)35. Nor does the American right have a clue about Marxism
Guess what? There are plenty of non-Marxists who aren't wild about unbridled capitalism. To give just one example, the Pope. And his predecessor. And his predecessor -- who lived under a communist regime for much of his life. In his encyclical Centesimus Annus , issued on the hundredth anniversary of Leo XIII's Rerum Novarum, and dealing in large part with the collapse of communism in Eastern Europe, John Paul II wrote
...can it perhaps be said that, after the failure of Communism, capitalism is the victorious social system, and that capitalism should be the goal of the countries now making efforts to rebuild their economy and society? Is this the model which ought to be proposed to the countries of the Third World which are searching for the path to true economic and civil progress?
The answer is obviously complex. If by "capitalism" is meant an economic system which recognizes the fundamental and positive role of business, the market, private property and the resulting responsibility for the means of production, as well as free human creativity in the economic sector, then the answer is certainly in the affirmative, even though it would perhaps be more appropriate to speak of a "business economy", "market economy" or simply "free economy". But if by "capitalism" is meant a system in which freedom in the economic sector is not circumscribed within a strong juridical framework which places it at the service of human freedom in its totality, and which sees it as a particular aspect of that freedom, the core of which is ethical and religious, then the reply is certainly negative.
The Marxist solution has failed, but the realities of marginalization and exploitation remain in the world, especially the Third World, as does the reality of human alienation, especially in the more advanced countries. Against these phenomena the Church strongly raises her voice. Vast multitudes are still living in conditions of great material and moral poverty. The collapse of the Communist system in so many countries certainly removes an obstacle to facing these problems in an appropriate and realistic way, but it is not enough to bring about their solution. Indeed, there is a risk that a radical capitalistic ideology could spread which refuses even to consider these problems, in the a priori belief that any attempt to solve them is doomed to failure, and which blindly entrusts their solution to the free development of market forces.
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Why Economist Thomas Piketty Has Scared the Pants Off the American Right [View all]
xchrom
Apr 2014
OP
Oh, there are plenty of other people who have studied Marx -- and Lenin
Fortinbras Armstrong
Apr 2014
#105
Unfortunately the leaders have enough money that they don't have to handle facts
hootinholler
Apr 2014
#59
That would be the smart thing to do, but unreg-capitalism doesnt have a mechanism for that.
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#13
It has to do with your hard-core commie plot to introduce impurities into our precious bodily fluids
tclambert
Apr 2014
#39
So when will they do it again? The bankster's extortion worked. The biggist heist in
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#15
I am thinking that Pres Obama might have been "encouraged" to hire Geithner and Bernanke.
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#86
There has never been a true Marxist/Communism country, they are/were a tyrannical dictatorship
mrdmk
Apr 2014
#80
The majority of Americans didn't read Milton Friedman or Friedrich Hayek
alcibiades_mystery
Apr 2014
#32
I don't think it is necessary for all Americans to read the book but it is essential that those who
jwirr
Apr 2014
#50
The best demo of this is to try to stan a pyramid upside down. Maybe that can get through to the
kelliekat44
Apr 2014
#20
Yes, Marx was an economist. I should not have lumped all economist into one group.
fasttense
Apr 2014
#51
How do you think we could eventually get "an educated and politically involved populace"?
Dawgs
Apr 2014
#58
Mandatory Voting? Done only in countries where they go through the motions of voting
happyslug
Apr 2014
#100
I wonder if he does that because Marx is so demonized by the cult of A. Smith in the academic econ
Ed Suspicious
Apr 2014
#42
The irony is that the majority of these wing nut flame throwers grew up....
Trust Buster
Apr 2014
#29
Climate change ... or peak oil (already here) ... one or the other ... or a bit of each ...
brett_jv
Apr 2014
#71
Freedom Fries will be on the menu soon, catered by the MSM and Wall Street. nt
adirondacker
Apr 2014
#63
Is not the entire right-wing screed, ideology, mantra about a government of, by, and for the
indepat
Apr 2014
#68
The PROBLEM is the Dems are busy trying to convince the rich that an oligarchy is a "bad" thing...
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2014
#72
It's no wonder that Millenials prefer socialism to capitalism by a slight margin
eridani
Apr 2014
#74