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In reply to the discussion: By Ditching the Public Option, Obama Gave His Enemies a Path to the Supreme Court [View all]JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Do you not understand this???
There was no way to vote Lieberman OUT of office prior to the HCR debate, he'd already won re-election!!!!
And he did not plan to run again later.
And your points about Lincoln and Nelson are IRRELEVANT to my question ... I already said I'll spot you them.
BTW ... you do know that Obama tried to BRIBE Nelson with what's known as the Cornhusker kickback, right?? It was well reported.
But who cares ... I'm taking the position that we have all of those other blue dogs locked up and ready to vote yes ... we need ONE ... Lieberman.
You seem to want to debate how we get the others ... ... fine feel free to describe how YOU as President would flip ALL OF THEM ... after all you need them ALL.
I am not scapegoating Lieberman. I simply use him as the best example.
I'll tell you what ... I'll spot you all the Blue Dogs as YES votes for Single Payer, including Lieberman, but you have to start with one of them as a NO.
You pick which one ... and you explain how YOU as President obtain the leverage to flip them. Remember to be specific.
And when you do this ... try not to think about the fact that in reality, you would not have to flip just ONE of them, but all of them.
But go ahead ... pick the one blue dog that YOU know how to FLIP on this.
I'm all ears.