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NOBODY likes or wants any children killed, by any means. I haven't seen a single instance of ANYONE saying they want kids killed or are happy about kids being killed. Everybody agrees on this point.
When that tragedy, however, is portrayed as some typical event that exemplifies the gun violence problem in this nation, then I'm going to call that tactic what it is - bullshit. It is dishonest and deceptive emotional manipulation and I'm not falling for it and neither are the majority of the people.
Please, tell me, short of confiscation (which will only disarm those who obey the law - armed criminals obviously don't give a damn what laws we pass), what do you think could have stopped Newtown? Please, what measure or measures could have stopped it? What law(s)?
Murder is against the law now. That is a law. Does it stop murder? No, it doesn't. Because there are bad people in this world who don't care about laws, or the lives of other people. That's the reality of the world we live in. And constraining law abiding gun owners does nothing but empower criminals, leaving honest and decent people vulnerable. I'm sure 100% of violent criminals are all for the most extreme gun control.
Let's be honest about the problem before we go trying to shred the Constitution to solve it. What are the links to SSRI drugs and mass-murderers? What effect does the constant inundation of violence via games, music, movies etc. have?
How many are dead in inner-city gun violence in Chicago, for example, this year? How many over Easter weekend? That's one city. That is the core of the gun violence problem in this country, day in and day out, and nobody here wants to talk about it. You don't see Boomberg ads on tv about it. It isn't mentioned.
No, it's all Newtown, using that sad tragedy, those poor kids, to try to trick people into supporting something they otherwise would not. And I'm sorry, it's deceptive and insincere and vulgar. And it failed spectacularly last year, almost costing Dems the CO Senate (only reason it didn't is because the last Dem targeted for recall stepped down before the vote could be held). And it will fail again this year. Bloomberg and his various front groups are going to accomplish one thing this year, and that is motivating the repub base. And some of the many Dem 2nd Amendment supporters may well vote repub on this issue alone.
People don't like their rights being screwed with. Especially by those who seek to deceive from the word go. I think you may not realize what you are doing when you use Newtown in this way. It is a grand deception to push an agenda. Some Dem strategist, I can't remember who right now, but I think he was part of Obama's team at some point, said something about not letting a tragedy go unexploited, or something like that. That's what this is all about, and I'm not the only one to see through it.