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17. Gun violence and murder have declined in the past few years in Chicago

Tue Apr 22, 2014, 06:24 PM

Apr 2014

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/what-you-dont-know-about-crime-chicago

You'd better get some facts straight, not just make stuff up; Homicides (85% of which are gun related), since 1990:

1990: 851[34]
1991: 927
1992: 943
1993: 855
1994: 931
1995: 828
1996: 796
1997: 761
1998: 704
1999: 643
2000: 633
2001: 667
2002: 656
2003: 601
2004: 453
2005: 451
2006: 471
2007: 448
2008: 513
2009: 459
2010: 436
2011: 435
2012: 516
2013: 415

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago

Aurora has a population of 199,932; Chicago has a population of 2,175,000

And yes, McCarthy and Emanuel have been avidly addressing gang activity and arresting gang members and putting special units in gang neighborhoods. It is a much more complex situation in a city this large.

ON EDIT: Additionally, Chicago doesn't even come close to being the most dangerous city:

In spite of all the breast-beating about Chicago murder rates, according to the FBI's latest report, there were 15 more cities with higher murder rates in 2012 than Chicago's 18.5 per 100,000 residents.

That pales in comparison with Detroit at 54.6 or New Orleans at 53.2 or St. Louis and Baltimore, both over 35.0. Chicago isn't even first among cities with a population over 1,000,000. That dubious distinction belongs to Philadelphia with 21.5 murders per 100,000.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-07-11/opinion/chi-20130710-foys_briefs_1_murder-rates-new-orleans

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President Obama may have gotten our troops out of Iraq, but the gunfire in his hometown of Chicago [View all] oneofthe99 Apr 2014 OP

It's because Rahm Emmanuel ignores the problem. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #1

What doesn't make any sense to me is they are getting caught with illegal stolen guns oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #3

No coordination with the feds. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #6

If Obama knew this why did he make him his White House Chief of Staff? oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #10

I can see how you're trying to make this about Obama instead of Rahm, but why wouldn't Obama... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #13

No I'm not , I had no idea what the back ground is or was with Emanuel oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #16

Because even smart people make misguided decisions. n/t nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #47

When someone is attempting warrant46 Apr 2014 #32

Gun violence and murder have declined in the past few years in Chicago frazzled Apr 2014 #17

Warm Weather, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #2

Huh? n/t malaise Apr 2014 #4

Chicago gun violence is bad, but... JaneyVee Apr 2014 #5

Is it just the homicide rate that dropped ? or have shootings increased since the 90's oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #7

Mostly due to Daley MohRokTah Apr 2014 #9

What!? Skidmore Apr 2014 #8

Ya...WTF... Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #11

Can't every crime that involves having a stolen or illegal firearm be charged federally? oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #12

No. eom 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #28

I almost forgot to blame Obama for this 4now Apr 2014 #14

This is a tragic issue but your post Cha Apr 2014 #35

Too many rightwing talking points in there to digest all at once. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #15

If I am incorrect about charging these criminals federally please correct me oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #20

Do we really want to federalize everything in the age of Obama? IL has a governor & state legis- Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #24

They went after pot growers , undocumented workers but lets leave criminals who oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #27

Possesssing a stolen or "illegal" gun ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #30

I believe you are wrong on this sir ,all firearms fall under BATF oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #31

Cite to a law ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #37

More talking point b.s. See Post #17! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #36

Thanks Obama! >:-() NT Adrahil Apr 2014 #18

Until we do something about guns? SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #19

What's with the subject line? joeybee12 Apr 2014 #21

It's the first line in the article oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #22

Oh, I read quick, didn't see it as the title of the article... joeybee12 Apr 2014 #23

so the President should have got us out of chicago too? spanone Apr 2014 #25

NRA owns the Teaparty morons randys1 Apr 2014 #26

The laws are already there federally , they just have to be enforced oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #29

No, there are not ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #33

here , it is not just a rocket launcher it's any gun, and it doesn't only have to cross state lines oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #39

I suffice it to say ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #41

No sir federal law always supersedes any state firearm law oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #42

Okay,... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #43

They do if directed by the President oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #44

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #45

I want to see every legal resource used that is available to curb gun violence oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #46

OUT OF CHICAGO NOW! Drunken Irishman Apr 2014 #34

What the hell does President Obama have to do with law enforcement in Chicago? Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #38

The President is responsible for law enforcement in the city of Chicago? AlinPA Apr 2014 #40

Everybody pointing fingers at each other for not enforcing current laws. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #48