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joshcryer

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92. I think we need to drop the personality cults.

Tue Apr 22, 2014, 10:22 PM

Apr 2014

Warren, for instance, is no more liberal than freaking, literally, Third Way Mark Udall (who, btw, I voted for and who I do consider having done good things, particularly his stuff on wiretapping; that doesn't make me a Third Way person though; as a Democrat on the Intelligence Committee Wyden probably pressed him to a degree on the issue, and it's obviously an issue Democrats care about).

The personality cults, the messaging, the imaging, though, it wouldn't tell you that politically, Elizabeth Warren, the populist anti-banking political force of nature is less liberal than Amy Klobuchar and former Blue Dog Kirsten Gillibrand!

That's why all of this is such bullshit, because in the end, I bet you, that we're going to love Clinton's presidency.

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GAME OVER, Warrenista Liberals! [View all] MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 OP

Meeeee! Look at meeee!!!!...nt SidDithers Apr 2014 #1

Oh the HORROR! A member posted a post on a discussion board!!!! neverforget Apr 2014 #5

Look....a shiteload of threads died today.....have some respect!!! nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #7

Not many do look at you Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #8

Aw, be fair. I eg, totally depend on Sid to let me know what OPs I need to rec sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #91

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Art_from_Ark Apr 2014 #129

I shall add him to the list of barometers... truebrit71 Apr 2014 #158

LOL! I knew there was a reason I haven't put Sid and a few others on ignore yet. Raksha Apr 2014 #199

Too much fun laughing at them and fucking with them. You know, treating them as they like ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #206

+1,000,000,000,000 eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #55

I hope you are being sarcastic. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #202

Few here can see you ,dithers. SixString Apr 2014 #83

Lol, true, but I have never used ignore. I depend on certain people to let me know which OPs I need sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #93

He does provide a good benchmark for rec-worthy threads SixString Apr 2014 #131

If you want more people to look at you... ljm2002 Apr 2014 #87

Lol! n/t sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #94

Aw, poor Sid. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #89

Nobody wants to look at you. You haven't produced a single useful post since ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #102

Posts like yours are what he lives for, so he can have them hidden and laugh and laugh and laugh. Electric Monk Apr 2014 #108

I've been on enough juries to know Flying Squirrel Apr 2014 #123

I was just on my first one a day or two back. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #151

He can try to have my posts hidden all he wants. That won't change the uselessness of his ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #164

Juror #6 ... I'm the jerk??? Hahahahahahhaaa! I especially liked Juror #4's response: ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #190

This message was self-deleted by its author ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #162

If that's all it takes to get him t jump up & down, Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #187

It's not nice to jump on someone when they are down. It's been a hard few months for The Group. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #209

I hope 'they' read your post here. I think you summed it up rather well. nt Electric Monk Apr 2014 #215

oh shit... wildbilln864 Apr 2014 #122

The great and powerful Sid has spoken. Just stay away from the curtain. "Look at me" is your .... marble falls Apr 2014 #124

Oh look, it's our resident Stephen Harper fan. Maven Apr 2014 #126

nailed it. nt. dionysus Apr 2014 #128

If posting useless commentary is considered nailing it, then yes, he did. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #168

first post wins the thread... good job, Sid scheming daemons Apr 2014 #145

"Wins the thread"?? I guess it depends on what game you guys are playing. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #180

Oh ...your still here. L0oniX Apr 2014 #160

LOL! Kahuna Apr 2014 #179

Glad that's settled. BKH70041 Apr 2014 #2

You Better Believe It!!!!!!nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #3

This thread is Awesome in so many ways. Obnoxious_One Apr 2014 #4

Welcome to DU! Fumesucker Apr 2014 #14

Welcome to DU.... blue14u Apr 2014 #32

This is what passes for political discussion here? BenzoDia Apr 2014 #6

Yes. And the rec count is proof of something, too. nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #9

You must have emoticons turned off Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #10

+1 Fumesucker Apr 2014 #13

Walked into that Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #17

LOL rhett o rick Apr 2014 #183

Two shows daily! Don't forget to tip your waiter, and please, try the fish :) Electric Monk Apr 2014 #12

No this is trolling via an "alter ego." joshcryer Apr 2014 #16

You don't speak for this political junkie Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #20

Eh, if you do I don't consider you a junkie. joshcryer Apr 2014 #28

"DU has little real world influence." Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #29

No offense intended. joshcryer Apr 2014 #40

It's a little too "inside baseball" but Manny is mining memes here on DU for material Fumesucker Apr 2014 #47

Sure thing. joshcryer Apr 2014 #59

I could have missed it Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #65

Really? joshcryer Apr 2014 #72

If the memes weren't there then Manny couldn't mock them so effectively, eh? Fumesucker Apr 2014 #67

I have hives? MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #79

I sense a HIPAA violation. DJ13 Apr 2014 #137

I dunno, the junkies knew Warren wouldn't run. joshcryer Apr 2014 #88

There may be only a few posters like that but they are extremely active Fumesucker Apr 2014 #90

I think we need to drop the personality cults. joshcryer Apr 2014 #92

If, by some measure, Warren is less Liberal than Klobuchar and Gillibrand MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #99

See what I mean? The measure is objective. joshcryer Apr 2014 #104

I once saw it proved, objectively, that Detroit is the best place for skiers to live. MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #113

Have a problem with That's My Congress score methods? joshcryer Apr 2014 #135

I'm on my way to tuning out of all this Fumesucker Apr 2014 #100

I miss grantcart. joshcryer Apr 2014 #106

One of my favorite posters on DU. Where did grantcart go? nt tblue37 Apr 2014 #117

You start out pretty good. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #153

Pledges not to run are as valid as pledges to roll back the Patriot Act. But that said, rhett o rick Apr 2014 #217

A pledge is more than a statement. joshcryer Apr 2014 #220

I dont expect her to run unless we have a miracle, but not because she pledged. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #222

Why would you shut it down? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #152

Ain't that the truth, and thank goodness for that!!! Beacool Apr 2014 #31

Tell Skinner that Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #33

Amen BKH70041 Apr 2014 #37

I've been terrified and fascinated by the number of times I've agreed with you lately. Number23 Apr 2014 #61

IKR Egnever Apr 2014 #81

I knew the warm feelings wouldn't last long Number23 Apr 2014 #118

you are, of course, hfojvt Apr 2014 #19

Here's political discussion for you. It has lots of pictures, even a cartoon Autumn Apr 2014 #21

Well obviously the OP is joking. BenzoDia Apr 2014 #23

Oh dear. My apologies, I thought you were new. Autumn Apr 2014 #53

It's okay :). Just jumping in on the fun. BenzoDia Apr 2014 #54

Bodhisattva Goldstein confuses some people. Autumn Apr 2014 #60

"We're not worthy!!!" daleanime Apr 2014 #66

Well, there's been worse, TBH. (But it's not all bad here, though! Keep reading.) AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #22

Yes, some do believe in "literal white privilege (whatever the heck that is) ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #85

and male privilege..... Been there, seen that! bettyellen Apr 2014 #115

gasp...you mean the people who benefit most noiretextatique Apr 2014 #195

Blocking you from the Environment Group was enjoyable . . . hatrack Apr 2014 #95

Sure.....whatever you say, hatrack. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #119

It's called humor Marrah_G Apr 2014 #26

Ummm, you sure? BenzoDia Apr 2014 #36

absolutely Marrah_G Apr 2014 #148

And it passes with flying colors being that it upsets all the 'right' people. n/t sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #98

I would argue that my simple post has sparked more discussion than anything else in this thread. BenzoDia Apr 2014 #107

Well... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #112

Guess I'm passing with flying colors too! BenzoDia Apr 2014 #114

I enjoyed it more the the OP, so thanks! bettyellen Apr 2014 #116

You're so very welcome! BenzoDia Apr 2014 #120

That cuts to the bone MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #125

Don't like it? Dont' let the door hit you in the ass on your way to a better venue. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #103

Don't let the apostrophe hit the t in the ass! BenzoDia Apr 2014 #109

Boy, you sure did come back at me! ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #110

Uhmm ...you are in GD ...not Politics 2014 L0oniX Apr 2014 #161

It's real easy to avoid these threads, but more fun to complain. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #182

Yep, it's all B.S. Beacool Apr 2014 #211

But on the plus side, there's a good laugh to be had at how some of this is playing out. BenzoDia Apr 2014 #218

Well Done... K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #11

Excellent post! Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #15

Game over man! Paulie Apr 2014 #18

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Fumesucker Apr 2014 #24

It's the only way to be sure! Scootaloo Apr 2014 #77

lmao Marrah_G Apr 2014 #25

Tammy Baldwin was a member of the Progressive Caucus hfojvt Apr 2014 #27

I was thinking of a different Queen song Fumesucker Apr 2014 #30

Excellent Satire, Manny 2banon Apr 2014 #34

This is nothing new folks .. she endorsed Hillary months ago .. pay attention pay attention YOHABLO Apr 2014 #35

Double secret endorsement Fumesucker Apr 2014 #41

Left unsaid in OP is the fact that Warren encouraged Hillary to run Otelo Apr 2014 #38

Welcome to DU! Fumesucker Apr 2014 #43

Not true! MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #45

By "some guy" you must be referring to Mrs. Kay Hagan (D-NC) Otelo Apr 2014 #51

Yeah, I forgot that Hagan spilled the beans. MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #76

Ok Otelo Apr 2014 #86

Welcome to DU.... blue14u Apr 2014 #64

Now that that difficult woman has finally learned her place Dragonfli Apr 2014 #39

Clinton/Blankfein 2016...that's the ticket. zeemike Apr 2014 #63

Blankfein just needs to be somewhat left on social issues and then it's all good. stillwaiting Apr 2014 #142

It's a hell of a start! MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #73

Hey you Whitehouse, ha ha charade you are Dragonfli Apr 2014 #172

I hadn't listened to that in ages MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #185

Kick. GoneFishin Apr 2014 #42

Bwahahahaha! djean111 Apr 2014 #44

But if Clinton is third way, then Warren's a liar! Iggo Apr 2014 #101

Isn't it cute how judiciously the "liar" label is flung about? djean111 Apr 2014 #141

Liar? no in that other thread someone said hootinholler Apr 2014 #171

This post needs the song... zeemike Apr 2014 #46

Looks like Manny is getting on the hill-train... Historic NY Apr 2014 #48

It was inevitable RobertEarl Apr 2014 #52

Well..... Resistance IS futile Dragonfli Apr 2014 #62

All anti-"Third Way" talk will be exterminated........ Rectangle Apr 2014 #69

Yup, focused on the issues is where it is at and a pol will always be there to supply if there is TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #49

moved Otelo Apr 2014 #50

K&R bahrbearian Apr 2014 #56

. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #57

Hillary ...... She's terrific.... blue14u Apr 2014 #58

Third-Way Manny, 99Forever Apr 2014 #68

I don't really get the cult of personality around Hillary. Amak8 Apr 2014 #70

^^^THIS^^^ blue14u Apr 2014 #71

I used to think she 840high Apr 2014 #84

Sorry, I'm calling BS. MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #74

You're absolutely right. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #82

Welcome to DU... blue14u Apr 2014 #97

Same group that worships and follows after Hollywood stars? L0oniX Apr 2014 #163

Here's a thought... the presidency isn't the only game in town. gtar100 Apr 2014 #75

I don't care what Warren and Clinton think of each other. djean111 Apr 2014 #78

Who cares. Lets win back the House in 2014. Actual important stuff. nt tridim Apr 2014 #80

knr Douglas Carpenter Apr 2014 #96

Al Gore repeatedly said in 1991 he absolutely would not run in 1992 Samantha Apr 2014 #105

TBH, I still think a Warren run would be interesting. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #121

Liking aspects of a person doesn't mean you agree with the whole package. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #111

"look at meeeeeeeee!!!111!11!111!!!!!" dionysus Apr 2014 #127

Sid already played that card. What else have you got? nt Electric Monk Apr 2014 #130

it's all the OP does, his attempts at satire suck, what more do you want? dionysus Apr 2014 #132

85 recs and counting would beg to differ with your opinion, but thanks for playing. Electric Monk Apr 2014 #133

you maybe don't get it. I think Warren or Bern would be great people to run, too. dionysus Apr 2014 #134

How many recs do pro-Hillary threads get? Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #136

don't know, don't care. Recs haven't meant much of anything since they got rid of the Unrec feature. dionysus Apr 2014 #167

Who cares? Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #188

That's not fair LordGlenconner Apr 2014 #159

!! Number23 Apr 2014 #205

I must apologize. JohnnyRingo Apr 2014 #138

I hadn't even thought about that connection MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #207

Jeff Lynne focuses more on production now. JohnnyRingo Apr 2014 #208

this is exactly why corporal punishment belongs in the toolbox. reddread Apr 2014 #219

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #139

What. A. Voice. MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #191

Warren's "medical device tax" response on Stewart disgusts me. joshcryer Apr 2014 #140

Thanks for letting us know about the secret letter Progressive dog Apr 2014 #143

Warren just started recently as a Senator IronLionZion Apr 2014 #144

I'm ashamed of myself for laughing. woo me with science Apr 2014 #146

Someone from the PTB goon squad had a talk with her and.... Hotler Apr 2014 #147

my new motto - warrprayer Apr 2014 #149

Aren't you worried that all this anger might put undue stress on your heart? Arkana Apr 2014 #150

Ah, but when a politician says they aren't running, isn't that proof that they ARE running? tclambert Apr 2014 #154

You forgot the other part where Queen E ratfucked Hillary hootinholler Apr 2014 #155

Absolutely fucking brilliant!! truebrit71 Apr 2014 #156

Stopped reading Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #157

Your op is pissing off people... L0oniX Apr 2014 #165

That has got to be the best thing about any OP by TWM Autumn Apr 2014 #175

How many times did she say she wasn't running for president? jmowreader Apr 2014 #166

Sorry, but it simply isn't compelling without at least four or five recursive blue links RufusTFirefly Apr 2014 #169

All kidding aside, ProSense Apr 2014 #170

Victory is ours!!! RufusTFirefly Apr 2014 #173

Every time you post that stuff I crack up MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #184

I do LOVE Queen Elizabeth Warren!!! Stellar Apr 2014 #174

Well Manny... davidthegnome Apr 2014 #176

Well David... MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #186

GAME OVER, Warrenista Liberals! The CCC Apr 2014 #177

K&R DeSwiss Apr 2014 #178

Wait. What? davidthegnome Apr 2014 #181

! DeSwiss Apr 2014 #193

TPTB shan't tolerate the insolence of an Elizabeth Warren-type voice indepat Apr 2014 #189

Dear old Manny... I have the feeling that if E. Warren DID get the Democratic nomination Peacetrain Apr 2014 #192

My fault entirely. kickysnana Apr 2014 #194

I don't think EW is in favor of charter schools. MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #196

I thought when you click full ignore on a persons profile you will no longer see anything they post. iandhr Apr 2014 #197

My OP was more awful than conceived of when MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #198

This week's The New Yorker reviewer of her new book calls her pro-voucher stance reckless. Here ancianita Apr 2014 #200

But it doesn't say *why*. MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #201

I agree. It stood out as his most virulent opinion in the review. Perhaps he thinks the audience ancianita Apr 2014 #203

Warren is a true progressive Utopian Leftist Apr 2014 #204

And pray tell, how would she accomplish al that? Beacool Apr 2014 #213

Is this an inside joke? Hosnon Apr 2014 #210

No, that's just what passes for edifying posts on this site. Beacool Apr 2014 #212

why does this MannyGoldstein guy try to sabotage the Democrats every chance he gets? uhnope Apr 2014 #214

google orwell Electric Monk Apr 2014 #216

TWM blows dogwhistle, Pavlov's ghost giggles from somewhere in the void. Rex Apr 2014 #221