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ProSense

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9. First
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 06:44 PM
Mar 2012
She’d have the government force every individual to buy insurance and I don’t have such a mandate because I don’t think the problem is that people don’t want health insurance, it’s that they can’t afford it. So, I focus more on lowering costs. This is a modest difference.

...that's correct. Remember there was the issue with Clinton wanting to garnish wages. Obama stressed lowering cost. In fact, he indicated that he would be open to the mandate after affordability was addressed. The issue of affordability and universality is addressed with the plan's structure and mandate exemptions.

Second, Reich actually indicated that Medicare is mandated:

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Unhappily for Obama and the Democrats, most Americans don’t seem to like the individual mandate very much anyway. Many on the political right believe it a threat to individual liberty. Many on the left object to being required to buy something from a private company.

The President and the Democrats could have avoided this dilemma in the first place if they’d insisted on Medicare for all, or at least a public option.

After all, Social Security and Medicare require every working American to “buy” them. The purchase happens automatically in the form of a deduction from everyone’s paychecks. But because Social Security and Medicare are government programs financed by payroll taxes they don’t feel like mandatory purchases.

Americans don’t mind mandates in the form of payroll taxes for Social Security or Medicare. In fact, both programs are so popular even conservative Republicans were heard to shout “don’t take away my Medicare!” at rallies opposed to the new health care law.

http://robertreich.org/post/19972321637



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alert the media...a politician changes his mind on policy....wow!!! spanone Mar 2012 #1
If you could get the houses to support him arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #6
gee when bush "changed his mind" he was roundly reviled right here on DU nt msongs Mar 2012 #12
So? FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #14
We shouldn't have two standards. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #23
George Bush was a lieing murdering dry drunk Whisp Mar 2012 #34
Plus Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #43
That was when he was for a public option before he was against it. mmonk Mar 2012 #2
A public option was never part of his healthcare plan, even when he was a candidate. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #17
. mmonk Mar 2012 #25
Not quite. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #28
You should be embarrassed for writing that post. SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #49
medicare for all! mike_c Mar 2012 #3
Parasites be gone! shrdlu Mar 2012 #7
Hillary Clinton's plan wasn't about buying private insurance Sparkly Mar 2012 #4
So Obama misrepresented her position? So did Obama also misrepresent his position on the mandate? Better Believe It Mar 2012 #5
As I recall, this was the ONE policy difference between the three of them -- Sparkly Mar 2012 #13
Yes and that was the one big reason I prefered Obama over Hillary Raine Mar 2012 #16
And that feinged policy was how he got my support in spite of his anti gay rallies with Bluenorthwest Mar 2012 #44
As I recall, her plan & Obama's were almost identical, except for the mandate. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #27
I still strongly support Candidate Obama and wish he'd won in 2008. nt Poll_Blind Mar 2012 #8
First ProSense Mar 2012 #9
Taxes are not mandates dictating how we spend post tax dollars in open markets TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #19
He was right then kenny blankenship Mar 2012 #10
Well said... Bluenorthwest Mar 2012 #45
Pres.Obama didn't write the HC bill. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #11
It was written by the health insurance industry, big pharma and Senators at Obama's home I believe. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #15
That's correct he didn't write it, but it does bear his signature kenny blankenship Mar 2012 #18
He's not objected to it. And you should take your head out of your arse. The HC bill is a BIG DEAL. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #40
Wall Street in an investment/financial industry, not health care. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #29
So the bib insurance companies and big pharma are not listed on Wall Street? Better Believe It Mar 2012 #36
Good luck with that tact. The man called it "his bill" many times on national TV. TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #21
Yup. And he stands by it. Doesn't mean he wrote it. We stand by the Constitution also. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #39
I'm totally loving the "Trashing Thread" option especially reserved for the ODSers hellbent on Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2012 #20
+1 n/t FSogol Mar 2012 #24
He did it to himself. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #31
No one's blaming the left. I'm a member of the left. I look to those who demonize a president who Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2012 #32
You're out of your mind. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #41
But that would eliminate the insurance companies and SCOTUS would never accept that. Kablooie Mar 2012 #22
It was a Republican idea for a good reason. Bonobo Mar 2012 #26
You're being too hard on them as I'm pretty sure the heart of your solution would require them to... Poll_Blind Mar 2012 #30
Sadly, PB, it doesn't EVEN require that. Bonobo Mar 2012 #33
I had to turn off Rachel Maddow for that reason. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #35
This kind of explains how Obama "came around" to the mandate thesquanderer Mar 2012 #37
Regardless of whether or not the mandate was a good idea... thesquanderer Mar 2012 #38
" this can be solved, but it’s important for him to give me space,” SATIRical Mar 2012 #42
More nonsense from someone who thinks that you can pass massive governmental legislation with grantcart Mar 2012 #46
yes, then he discovered Congress was in charge of it. librechik Mar 2012 #47
Lukewarm support for Obama now is going to get us Romney EmeraldCityGrl Mar 2012 #48
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