General Discussion

madville

(7,847 posts)

21. It's funny that they have a train in that picture

Wed Apr 23, 2014, 10:06 PM

Apr 2014

Since more crude will make the journey by rail car if the pipeline capacity isn't expanded, I wonder which way the railroads are lobbying j/k. I've seen conflicting reports over which method, rail or pipeline, has the larger carbon footprint so not sure on that.

I didn't know until recently that there are already existing pipelines that cover the same journey from end-to-end, they cover a longer distance though. Also that a large part of Keystone has already been built and is in use, the section under debate is the Northern leg that crosses the border.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

61 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

OBAMA Admin: "The Pipeline Would In Fact Be Rejected - Only Question NOW Is Timing Of Announcement" [View all] kpete Apr 2014 OP

K&R! octoberlib Apr 2014 #1

Bookmarked FiveGoodMen Apr 2014 #2

Announce it November 5, 2014. nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #3

If this is true ... a gigantic Thankyou ...and more importantly the world ... MindMover Apr 2014 #4

if true, remember that this is only one step.... mike_c Apr 2014 #5

believe it when I see it. HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #6

Well said. Louisiana1976 Apr 2014 #9

I'm in that column, too gratuitous Apr 2014 #11

What are you hearing about TPP ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #16

They're negotiating it in secret (which is troubling enough). HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #17

Do you really believe that President Obama would piss away our National soveriegnty(sp)? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #19

Well, who does he work for? HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #20

Who does he work for? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #22

Ha! Thats what we're supposed to believe. HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #30

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #33

They will never get that, 1SBM. sheshe2 Apr 2014 #35

And won't you be surprised... HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #39

Another broad prediction! ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #40

0-fer...like Obama's Wall St criminal prosecutions? HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #42

Yeah, 0-fer this ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #43

It's the OD's~ sheshe2 Apr 2014 #47

But don't worry ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #49

If you do not push GOTV2014 sheshe2 Apr 2014 #46

Bullshit. Raksha Apr 2014 #44

Bullshit on your bullshit. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #45

When 80% of the public wants something and wealthy elites don't, the public wins 43% of the time. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #53

TPP is overhyped. I'll take Krugman's opinion over just about anyones. phleshdef Apr 2014 #23

I'll take Senator Warren's word. HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #28

Warren isn't actually arguing against any of the details. phleshdef Apr 2014 #29

I like Krugman, but he isn't privy to the negotiations. HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #32

He is just as privy as Warren is. Read your own article. phleshdef Apr 2014 #34

True ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #41

"NAFTA on steroids" HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #50

Yes, described by anti-TPPers ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #54

AFAIK, no-one has leaked anything... they are prohibited from doing so. HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #55

Come on, mannn ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #57

What has been "leaked" is not direct quotes from the document. HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #58

Come on, mannn ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #59

Bloomberg Business Report saying today "Negotiations with Japan" to get a KoKo Apr 2014 #48

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #31

i'm a cynic, but i'll k&r and hope that it happens frylock Apr 2014 #7

No point in waiting if you've already told people what you're going to do. n/t winter is coming Apr 2014 #8

Recommend! And this story wouldn't be out there babylonsister Apr 2014 #10

Eh.... Calista241 Apr 2014 #12

Its going to China anyway. HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #13

Hope so and I sure would appreciate it. Autumn Apr 2014 #14

We'll see. 99Forever Apr 2014 #15

Right wing republican at the SOTU Address ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #26

Like when Obama cut Social Security. JoePhilly Apr 2014 #51

Do it now and let the Dems run as Dems, pro healthcare, pro environment, pro puppies NightWatcher Apr 2014 #18

It's funny that they have a train in that picture madville Apr 2014 #21

KnR. I suspected as much when he kept stalling approval. Make it so, Mr. President! Hekate Apr 2014 #24

K&R /nt Dragonfli Apr 2014 #25

He did this before the 2012 elections. joshcryer Apr 2014 #27

I hope so. Recommend. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #36

If so, I think it is more an economic than environmental decision Strelnikov_ Apr 2014 #37

I hope so. bigwillq Apr 2014 #38

Awesome news InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2014 #52

Ah, the old "unnamed sources". Apparently they're reliable when they say what we want to hear. n/t hughee99 Apr 2014 #56

This would be great news, and I'd love to believe in 4-D chess... Orsino Apr 2014 #60

"...a closely guarded secret" again. Why? Doesn't he trust the people? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #61