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joshcryer

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31. I've told you I am sort of an administrative law hobbyist.

Thu Apr 24, 2014, 02:04 AM

Apr 2014

You know, if the FCC decided to go ahead with rules that ruled against the case, it'd be reheard, right?

That's the beauty of administrative law. You can go against the courts, fuzz the rules, every time, and it goes back to the courts.

As much as I'd hate to say it, you have to admit that the FCC could at least have tried to finagle a solution, in a round about rule making sort of way. I admit at the moment I don't know the FCC's rulemaking ability, but I am very familiar with the EPA and SEC, so I suspect, though I can't say for certain, they can throw a wrench into things and find a way around the case.

And that could ultimately lead to a SCOTUS case (though under the current SCOTUS you don't want net neutrality to be heard at all, it would be a disaster).

In a way, a few years of non-net neutrality until we can get a better SCOTUS would possibly be worth it.

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Ahh, Memory Lane..."Obama's Bad Pick: A Former [Cable Industry] Lobbyist at the FCC" [View all] Maven Apr 2014 OP

So bad that Warren, Sanders, and Franken voted for him, unreservedly? Your OP is facile, because msanthrope Apr 2014 #1

Unreservedly you say? Maven Apr 2014 #2

Apparently, Sanders kept an open mind, kept his promise, and met with Wheeler and voted for him.... msanthrope Apr 2014 #3

"Senators Urge FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler to �Move Quickly� to Preserve �Open Internet'" Maven Apr 2014 #6

I asked on another thread just how the reclassification was going to survive the same court...since msanthrope Apr 2014 #7

What? The FCC did not reclassify. Maven Apr 2014 #10

Yes--they did...10 years ago. In the 2002 case. So now, kindly explain to me how the FCC, as msanthrope Apr 2014 #12

Correct, the FCC classified ISPs as an "information service", not a telecom...EXACTLY as I said Maven Apr 2014 #13

Yes--it actually does need a legal reason to change its own rules. That's how a democracy works. msanthrope Apr 2014 #14

No, actually, you did not give me such a ruling. Maven Apr 2014 #16

I understand you backing down. But I really would like for you to tell us all exactly the legal msanthrope Apr 2014 #17

I'm not backing down at all. You're simply wrong, you don't understand how to read the decision Maven Apr 2014 #18

Again...tell me the legal justification for the rule change. It's a pretty simple question, and you msanthrope Apr 2014 #20

see e.g. NATIONAL CABLE & TELECOMMUNICATIONS ASSOCIATION ET AL v. BRAND X INTERNET SERVICES ET AL Maven Apr 2014 #22

What? You've cited an opinion where SCOTUS agrees that the classification of "information services" msanthrope Apr 2014 #23

You're confusing the holding of the case with its outcome. Maven Apr 2014 #24

Um, no. Your problem is that you still haven't provided a legal basis for changing the msanthrope Apr 2014 #25

Not because it feels like doing so. Maven Apr 2014 #27

If there are plenty of legal arguments, then would you please LIST THEM????? msanthrope Apr 2014 #28

I'll jump in here: the FCC does not have "complete discretion" to change a previous position onenote Apr 2014 #32

LOL. It's so refreshing to read the words of people like Sanders and Warren Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #8

Oh...I'm waiting for the legal analysis of the appeal from this thread..... msanthrope Apr 2014 #9

The words of Sanders... Maven Apr 2014 #11

Nice article where the Republicans express their dislike of Wheeler for proposing more regulations.. msanthrope Apr 2014 #15

His nomination was music to the telecom industry's ears Maven Apr 2014 #19

Indeed--and Wheeler proposed regulations against AT&T when they tried to merge. The fact msanthrope Apr 2014 #21

Warren, Sanders and Franken....sellouts ALL!!! Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #4

UNDER THE BUS!!! And godamn the FCC for obeying the courts!!! nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #5

And once again The Group sides with Corp-America. The FCC just another tool for Corp-America. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #29

I've told you I am sort of an administrative law hobbyist. joshcryer Apr 2014 #31

The problem is, Josh, andyou have captured it, is that there's the 2002 directive. Plus the msanthrope Apr 2014 #35

On the same page. joshcryer Apr 2014 #36

Obama? Favoring corporate interests over those of his electorate, in one of his picks!? villager Apr 2014 #26

Obama pledged to have the most bi-partisan cabinet ever. joshcryer Apr 2014 #30

that's not all we got, pal. nt grasswire Apr 2014 #33

It sure is. joshcryer Apr 2014 #34