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Yo_Mama

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Fri Apr 25, 2014, 04:41 PM Apr 2014

Some info is emerging about marijuana use in the young and cardiovascular problems [View all]

I read this in Medscape, but that's a subscription (free) site:
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/824049?src=wnl_edit_medn_wir&uac=79280DR&spon=34

Here are some other links:
http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/23/marijuana-use-linked-to-heart-problems/
http://jaha.ahajournals.org/content/3/2/e000638.full?sid=a7d9834b-0755-446d-b5f7-8a1cef51e92a
http://jaha.ahajournals.org/content/3/2/e000904.full?sid=a7d9834b-0755-446d-b5f7-8a1cef51e92a

The 2006 CARDIA study showed that marijuana use is associated with hypertension, dyslipidemia, and higher caloric intake, all of which may increase the incidence of coronary artery disease.10 In light of the probable effects of marijuana on increasing platelet coagulability11 and its frequent combined use with smoking tobacco or other illicit drugs, it is not surprising to note these reports of myocardial infarctions. In a review of 3882 patient interviews, Mittleman et al12 found a significant 4.8‐fold increase in the incidence of myocardial infarction over baseline in the first hour after marijuana use. Similarly, a 4.2‐fold increase in mortality rate was observed in marijuana users compared with nonusers following myocardial infarction.13


The reason it caught my eye is that this is the only explanation we can find for a 24 year old very fit female with recurrent bouts of tachycardia, and the tachycardia is so serious that we are sending her for a full CV workup.

I also have some preliminary associations showing that it isn't safe for diabetic patients with any trace of CV, and that includes vasoconstriction, to which some people have a natural (genetic) propensity, and which is strongly associated with Type II and CV in the younger cohort.

I can't stress enough that the strength of the association is not known and it may prove that it is confined to people with certain traits only. Doctors do and will continue to prescribe marijuana or THC for some conditions. But it may be prove to be like other drugs - beneficial to some and harmful to others.

There is a strong association with schizophrenia. That much is proven.

All of this puts doctors in an awkward position. We are updating our risk matrix at the clinic to include marijuana use in a number of conditions. However the JAHA suggestion to report adverse medical events to the state (which would be a mandate) would put doctors in a more difficult position with respect to their patients, because they might not be honest if they knew it were to be disclosed, unless an ironclad guarantee of confidentiality were provided.

I thought DU should be aware of both the medical trend here and the possible political implications. I still favor legalization, which would at least leave any problem as a medical issue only, and not a medical/legal problem. And this sort of reporting would be helpful - but I would not want to see mandatory reporting without complete confidentiality in the US.

I do think this is a serious problem for some. When these CV associations occur, they seem to be very serious in the young.
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Thank you for your concern trolling 4now Apr 2014 #1
Here's what NORML has to say about that: Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #2
Of course this will be ignored, the narrative must stand. nt. Rex Apr 2014 #14
"There is a strong association with schizophrenia. That much is proven." antiquie Apr 2014 #3
Association is NOT causation Yo_Mama Apr 2014 #20
Yes. That's what meta analysis has shown RainDog Apr 2014 #23
Right - for some people it may be causative, we don't know how to distinguish that Yo_Mama Apr 2014 #24
But the meta analyses ruled out causation RainDog Apr 2014 #26
They didn't rule out causation in indivduals Yo_Mama Apr 2014 #28
If individuals were at risk for schizo-affective disorders RainDog Apr 2014 #30
It's interesting that someone was writing about this RainDog Apr 2014 #29
Chances are, these "case studies" were couch-potatoes long before smoking weed... Cooley Hurd Apr 2014 #4
These studies are ridiculous... First of all, what kind of weed was it? SomethingFishy Apr 2014 #11
and my munchies were always for fresh whole foods like fruits & veggies eShirl Apr 2014 #12
My point is that a specialized reporting system is being suggested Yo_Mama Apr 2014 #25
taurine metabolic byproduct. hobbit709 Apr 2014 #5
Thank gawd we have prohibition to save these young people. n/t theaocp Apr 2014 #6
Here some FUD, there some FUD, everywhere some FUD FUD! Rex Apr 2014 #7
Thank you for posting this…this sounds important for anyone who wants to start young and.. Tikki Apr 2014 #8
because your physician will have as much data as went into and came out of this study: zero. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #15
Or he will have info… Tikki Apr 2014 #16
Or if you have early symptoms. Yo_Mama Apr 2014 #19
Yes, we need to tell our physicians everything we regularly put into our systems. Tikki Apr 2014 #22
Which it will not necessarily be if a mandatory reporting system is instituted. Yo_Mama Apr 2014 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author antiquie Apr 2014 #9
I've been smoking pot for over 30 years Politicalboi Apr 2014 #10
Exactly - some people can't eat wheat - Yo_Mama Apr 2014 #18
6 Sodas? otohara Apr 2014 #37
Thanks for posting. Union Scribe Apr 2014 #13
Good information RainDog Apr 2014 #17
paranoia, with munchies? Who knew? 2pooped2pop Apr 2014 #21
Now that pot will soon be legal everywhere the fear mongering Lint Head Apr 2014 #31
In people prone to vasoconstriction, pot has caused amputations. Yo_Mama Apr 2014 #32
For people with ulcers aspirin can cause them to bleed and death. Lint Head Apr 2014 #34
And the tobacco had absolutely no effect? Give me a break. hobbit709 Apr 2014 #36
All those reported were cigarette smokers, too RainDog Apr 2014 #38
"higher caloric intake"... Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #33
I think the suggestion that marijuana is somehow a miracle drug that never brings harm and cures hedgehog Apr 2014 #35
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