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LeftishBrit

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2. Yes, this was one of the main principles of the postwar consensus in the UK..
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 04:06 AM
Apr 2014

which was destroyed by Maggie Thatcher et al.

It's not true that there is no work to do due to technology. We can all see, every day, areas where work needs to be done and is not being done.

Also, there is the ironic situation where some people are working long hours that are harming their health and family life, while others are unemployed. It would be better for everyone to be working somewhat shorter hours.

Moreover, the problem is not just unemployment as such, but insecure employment. An ever-increasing number of people are in non-tenured jobs where they have no security and can be dismissed at any time; the extreme in the UK is the abuse of so-called 'zero-hours contracts'. Unfortunately, the post-Thatcherites have the implicit and often explicit attitude that job insecurity improves performance; that people will not be productive unless they are living in fear of unemployment. Obviously, people deserve to be sacked if they really don't do their jobs; but it's gone way beyond that to produce a culture of fear, which is not only bad for the individual, but often inhibits creativity, flexibility and plain common-sense.

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I absolutely agree. Unfortunately people have to seriously adjust their thinking to accept this. mattclearing Apr 2014 #1
Yes, this was one of the main principles of the postwar consensus in the UK.. LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #2
+1! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #4
and you didn't mention Ruskin either hfojvt Apr 2014 #10
We need another WPA.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #3
It's heartbreaking how far this nation has fallen Enthusiast Apr 2014 #5
The media was infiltrated long ago by the Right.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #14
That is also my understanding. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #16
A line flashes by in the movie "Forrest Gump"... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #18
Iraq was about oil, war profiteering and making Bush the Lesser a war president. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #19
Iraq was also about pointing to the Democrats as not only weak on national security but TRAITORS.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #22
I was about to say the same thing but backed out of the posting page to see if anyone ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #12
Also geothermal at the Yellowstone Supervolcano.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #13
Geothermal at Yellowstone could even be done outside the eyes of the public. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #20
The way they generate power at a plant is to boil water into steam to drive a turbine.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #21
I think a right to an -income- and a recategorization of what constitutes... Shandris Apr 2014 #6
Hear, hear! k&r Laelth Apr 2014 #7
too bad they don't mention Ruskin hfojvt Apr 2014 #8
I agree. That's why I'm tired of talking about a "minimum" wage...... socialist_n_TN Apr 2014 #9
It's not like there isn't anything to do. Octafish Apr 2014 #11
The government owes the populace a way to contribute human capital for the benefit of all. rrneck Apr 2014 #15
And for all those rw religious zealots -Calvin said that when there was not work the government jwirr Apr 2014 #17
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