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ProSense

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70. Frankly,

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 09:12 AM

Apr 2014

I know exactly what I'm talking about

You are welcome, as always, to disagree.

But if you compare the record of what has been done with either the active complicity or cowardly lack of fight by the "centrist" Democrats and the results over the last 20 years, it is hard to make any claims that they have stood up against the GOP and the Corporate Oligarchy's push to turn back the New Deal, Great Society and the basic tenants of economic democracy. Too often they have actively support it.

I've been paying attention since the 70's. I know what I'm talking about. Again, I don't care of you (or anyone) disagrees, but don't claim that everyone who is critical of the Centrist Corporate wing of the Democratic Party -- of which President Obama is a member in good standing -- is ignorant.

...that theory is complete nonsense. It's simply taking a talking point and trying to use it in a broadbrush way that completely ignores reality. That's a lame tactic. It's no different from yelling "corporatist," "neo-liberal" or "Third Way."

The reality of everything from health care reform to Wall Street reform says otherwise.

There is no question that Dodd-Frank was a strong bill—the strongest in three generations. I didn’t have a chance to vote for it because I wasn’t yet in the Senate, but if I could have, I would have voted for it twice.

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What Obama's FCC is about to do to the Internet is similar to what Clinton did to broadcasting in 96 [View all] Armstead Apr 2014 OP

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The first 'episode' I watched chilled me to the bone and have rarely watched it since 1996. Mnemosyne Apr 2014 #8

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This is going to be much worse nt Ex Lurker Apr 2014 #2

Our owners hate us for our freedom. scarletwoman Apr 2014 #3

...and ability to reason. Octafish Apr 2014 #52

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We cannot allow this. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #4

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that's great, which county are you living/working on? 2banon Apr 2014 #115

A big hello to you too. truedelphi Apr 2014 #118

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Just one more notch on the gun defacto7 Apr 2014 #7

K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #9

And who would have imagined a Democratic president would go along with this. And Obama quinnox Apr 2014 #10

Who would have imagined? pscot Apr 2014 #16

+1 villager Apr 2014 #27

+2 840high Apr 2014 #33

THANK YOU Skittles Apr 2014 #43

Here. bvar22 Apr 2014 #78

He talks a great game...but he sure doesn't walk his talk when it comes to taming Corporate America Armstead Apr 2014 #25

It's only because he can't find his "comfortable pair of shoes" cui bono Apr 2014 #29

But but but snot Apr 2014 #42

That is the problem with the Republicans disguised as "Democrats". bvar22 Apr 2014 #11

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+1! snot Apr 2014 #41

Electing Hillary would effectively give the Clintons a THIRD presidential term. Divernan Apr 2014 #48

^^This^^ 99Forever Apr 2014 #81

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No. It will just slooooooooowwwwwwwww down Armstead Apr 2014 #17

Okay. Thanks. ballyhoo Apr 2014 #34

Well, a lot of DU is pretty "slow" already. cui bono Apr 2014 #90

Yup nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #13

These companies shouldn't have been allowed to get so big in the first place Armstead Apr 2014 #19

One qualifier, oligarchy nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #20

One Oligarchy -- Two Divisions (Brands) of It Armstead Apr 2014 #22

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Why do you love Putin!? villager Apr 2014 #28

Well nothing has happened yet so how can you be against it? cui bono Apr 2014 #30

"Bu..bu..but he had no choice!" Jake Stern Apr 2014 #31

It's just an N-dimensional chess move, Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #32

ssshhhhhhh.....This is all the Republicans fault Armstead Apr 2014 #35

It's all Republican obstructionism. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #46

That's half the problem -- the other half is us, by not standing firm Armstead Apr 2014 #50

I was only kidding but you have a great answer nonetheless. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #53

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Yes, it feels so wonderfully satisfying. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #66

To paraphrase Bill Clinton... Armstead Apr 2014 #117

Same old shit they pulled when Clinton fucked us over Armstead Apr 2014 #36

"The adults know best. " ProSense Apr 2014 #56

The "adults' are the people in power (or their apologists) who keep screwing us over but who.... Armstead Apr 2014 #57

Do you ProSense Apr 2014 #65

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Frankly, ProSense Apr 2014 #70

Your faith in them is touching Armstead Apr 2014 #71

Your inability to refute the point is telling. n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #72

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We don't need to wait 5 years. bvar22 Apr 2014 #82

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Yes. I know. bvar22 Apr 2014 #86

You're ProSense Apr 2014 #89

Oh... so they caught some small fry? bvar22 Apr 2014 #93

First ProSense Apr 2014 #94

I KNEW you couldn't do it, Pro. bvar22 Apr 2014 #96

Translation: I'm just going to ignore what you posted, Pro. ProSense Apr 2014 #97

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"the opposition party tears into their opponent: everything he does is thus marvelous MisterP Apr 2014 #38

How insulting ProSense Apr 2014 #55

Don't Mischararacterie my post Armstead Apr 2014 #58

"I included your precious Obama in there" ProSense Apr 2014 #59

Bill Clinton proudly signed the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Efilroft Sul Apr 2014 #60

Bill Clinton repealed Glass Steagall and "proudly" signed DADT and DOMA into law. n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #62

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Hilarious ProSense Apr 2014 #80

Not Hilarious Armstead Apr 2014 #92

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FCC Supports: Separate but Neutral n/t gmoles Apr 2014 #37

K&R'd! snot Apr 2014 #39

What alternative realistic response did he have to the Federal Court decision pnwmom Apr 2014 #44

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CONGRESS. That is the answer. Congress needs to pass legislation, pnwmom Apr 2014 #99

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Reclassification Is Not a Dirty Word ProSense Apr 2014 #64

Neither is "Absurd Rationalization" LanternWaste Apr 2014 #120

They learned from 2008 n2doc Apr 2014 #67

"Nothing to lose at all." CrispyQ Apr 2014 #68

Actually, Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act of 1996 on February 8, 1996. Efilroft Sul Apr 2014 #79

Yes I forsee a lucrative career as a corporate "advisor" and speaker ahead for President Obama Armstead Apr 2014 #85

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I profoundly but respectfully beg to differ Armstead Apr 2014 #91

Do you disagree with... Blanks Apr 2014 #100

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Thanks, Obama. blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #95

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knr Douglas Carpenter Apr 2014 #105

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