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In reply to the discussion: Any police officer who said that GZ had blood on him, a broken nose, or marks on the back of his [View all]TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)I have very much defended Martin from the beginning and was one of the first to say that how the police handled the case from the very beginning was not a bunch of mistakes but calculated and intentional. No, I'm not at all grabbing at straws, and NO, I AM NOT defending Zimmerman AT ALL. I just find it ludicrous that there are people claiming that he couldn't possibly have any injuries and that the police lied about that based on this silly grainy video after he had been treated at the scene and especially since you CAN see "something" on the back of his head in the video... whether it's a laceration or dirt or what CAN'T be ascertained from the video. You CAN'T tell whether or not he had a broken nose or a bloody nose or whether or not whatever that "something" is on the back of his head is a laceration or dirt or what based on this video, and it's STUPID STUPID STUPID to claim one can. What CAN be seen in the video is that his injuries were slight and not so important that he needed immediate hospital care which one would need if there head was bashed on the ground severely because of the danger of a serious head injury.
I also in several posts described my own experience with my severely broken nose back in the '80's where there was no blood, no swelling and no bruising around they eyes and that my own family members couldn't tell I had any injury to my nose at all even when looking at it up close and personal. Yet it was a severe break that just so happened to only be revealed through x-rays that showed the severe damage on the inside that couldn't be detected on the outside. I knew it was severely broken because I couldn't breathe out of one side at all and I FELT like my nose was coming out the side of my head, but it didn't LOOK that way. NOT every nose injury reveals itself the same way because not every nose injury is the same whether broken or not. One would THINK that was common sense, but over and over I see post after post claiming that all broken noses bleed and they all bleed like a gusher when they DON'T.
Again, it DOES NOT MATTER whether Zimmerman had these injuries or not, what matters is how he got them and under what circumstances. Did HE start the physical altercation with Martin, and even if he didn't was it not allowable or excusable that Martin felt he needed to physically defend himself from this stranger with a visible gun on his waist chasing him particularly under Florida's Stand Your Ground law? Yes, it's perfectly reasonable that Martin would have felt afraid and even afraid for his life especially considering that visible gun at Zimmerman's waist. If Martin physically defended himself from Zimmerman and got a few licks in then GOOD. He had every right to defend himself from this nutty dude with a gun chasing him for no other reason than he was a black kid walking on the sidewalk acting entirely unsuspicious.
Now, suppose you go and do yourself that favor of looking up my other posts on this case and see which one of us is "grasping at straws". I'll wait.