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131. Coppers (usually right wingers) enforcing the death panels against the non-1%?

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Women dies after being dragged from Hospital... [View all] HipChick Mar 2012 OP

EDIT--link isn't working. That's ghastly. nt MADem Mar 2012 #1

Try this link pokerfan Mar 2012 #10

OMG, so young and beautiful. MADem Mar 2012 #16

I didn't have to click on the link to know she was black. So sad. nanabugg Mar 2012 #152

Too bad she wasn't an embryo CanonRay Mar 2012 #87

+1 mmonk Mar 2012 #92

I got a bad link the first time but it worked when I re-clicked on it. pacalo Mar 2012 #12

The second link provided did the trick. What a terrible story. nt MADem Mar 2012 #17

I'm glad you got to see it. pacalo Mar 2012 #22

From the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: ellisonz Mar 2012 #14

Unbelievable. CrispyQ Mar 2012 #2

+1. nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2012 #73

She must of had an outstanding warrant... FarPoint Mar 2012 #3

No read it again! "She was arrested because she refused to leave" lunasun Mar 2012 #8

No. The doc didn't properly check her and thought she was malingering. nt MADem Mar 2012 #19

See, this is what I don't understand and I don't liberalhistorian Mar 2012 #25

They did ultrasound her legs... cynatnite Mar 2012 #28

DVT Is a big killer Evasporque Mar 2012 #91

You are right about that. OVERPAID01 Mar 2012 #71

And HERE is the Difference, that saved you and killed her..... BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2012 #95

Sorry.. that's bullshit Texasgal Mar 2012 #111

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Marrah_G Mar 2012 #4

I read some on this story yesterday. She had had tests that didn't show anything, was discharged. uppityperson Mar 2012 #5

I don't think they would have released dick cheney me b zola Mar 2012 #49

she was complaining that she couldn't dana_b Mar 2012 #6

Between two available beds! pacalo Mar 2012 #11

THAT is why I registered here. To me that was the final indignity. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #121

Welcome to DU! The Midway Rebel Mar 2012 #139

That was beautifully said & that speaks for my feelings about it, too. pacalo Mar 2012 #147

I read that one too, and heard the woman crying at the end. A FELONY, they charged her with. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #153

So much for the "emergency room" argument. nt Confusious Mar 2012 #7

Malpractice and a lawsuit to the police department? Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #9

Can't fault the police. The hospital, though? I think yes. MADem Mar 2012 #21

The fact that she was screaming in pain and liberalhistorian Mar 2012 #29

A doctor told them she was trespassing and that there was nothing wrong with her. MADem Mar 2012 #33

Did the crappy dr's make the police treat her like an animal? me b zola Mar 2012 #52

The doctors told the police this woman, with no drugs in her system, was a "drug seeker." MADem Mar 2012 #67

In civilized nations me b zola Mar 2012 #80

I don't know what kind of medical coverage she had. MADem Mar 2012 #110

"Good faith"?? DiverDave Mar 2012 #159

The principle being that the police have the right to treat malingerers and drug seekers who HiPointDem Mar 2012 #160

They didn't "throw," they placed her. MADem Mar 2012 #162

Oh, sure they gently placed her DiverDave Apr 2012 #167

The doctors painted her as a lying malingering drug seeker. MADem Mar 2012 #69

I dont have all the facts mind you but my initial opinion is that the doctor should lose his cstanleytech Mar 2012 #126

I think it was an egregious error and the doctor should be held responsible. MADem Mar 2012 #129

You would think that the hospital could have confirmed she didn't have any drugs in her system. Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #58

Can't fault the police? Really? Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #37

She had JUST been released by the doctor, who said she was "fit for confinement." MADem Mar 2012 #43

The woman was having trouble breathing. She was in pain. Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #53

A doctor had "just"--I mean JUST--told them she was "fit for confinement." MADem Mar 2012 #64

The cops dragged her *by her arms* into the police station Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #83

I would be suing that hospital if she were my child or sister. MADem Mar 2012 #119

Don't they have minds of their own? The woman told them she was in too much pain to walk. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #76

They hear that shit all the time. Especially from "drug seekers." MADem Mar 2012 #122

Are doctors allowed to test everyone who complains of pain for drugs? dkf Mar 2012 #156

I don't know but I doubt they would do that--it costs money. MADem Mar 2012 #157

Yup. Nobody involved in this should be held accountable in any way. It was an act of God. n/t Crunchy Frog Mar 2012 #106

WTF? MADem Mar 2012 #117

I'm really sure it's sarcastic without the "sarcasm" thingy. xtraxritical Mar 2012 #135

Hard to tell! nt MADem Mar 2012 #144

Generally speaking the "little people" are routinely called to be "accountable" for their errors. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #142

Give it a break Caretha Mar 2012 #112

Why don't YOU? MADem Mar 2012 #114

As I said.... Caretha Mar 2012 #116

And as I said, this isn't about ME, so try behaving like an adult and stop trying to make it thus. MADem Mar 2012 #120

I expect, as a minimum, that they would put her on the bed and not leave her laying on the floor. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #124

Absolutely NOT. MADem Mar 2012 #127

It appears to me that there is a pad on the beds. It's a local jail, not a federal supermax prison. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #132

If she was "drug seeking" she was by definition a "druggie" MADem Mar 2012 #138

I didn't say the police should have known she had blood clots. I said they treated her carelessly HiPointDem Mar 2012 #146

They had a "fit for confinement" order from a doctor who said she was a malingering trespasser. MADem Mar 2012 #150

Where was her family? Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #59

There are a lot of links to articles in this thread. Read them all and you'll see. MADem Mar 2012 #115

A woman who clearly needed medical and mental health treatment is instead shunted to jail suffragette Mar 2012 #77

I agree. I think the doctor blew it. Completely. MADem Mar 2012 #123

I can fault them for not putting her in a bed and instead leaving her on the floor. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2012 #98

I think the doctor convinced them that she was a malingerer and a "drug seeker." MADem Mar 2012 #105

It is a human thing Mojorabbit Mar 2012 #107

You probably would not have called the police and said "Get this malingering drug seeker out of my MADem Mar 2012 #113

I am not excusing the doc. I said that the actions of the police provided the final indignity. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #137

The police were simply a pump primed by the doctor. MADem Mar 2012 #143

Nothing to do with intelligence. Something to do with humanity. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #125

Whatever. You know it all. You "know" that no one in custody ever lies or fakes it. MADem Mar 2012 #128

Why are you making it personal? They left her laying on the floor. There was no need for that, HiPointDem Mar 2012 #130

Yes, there WAS a need for that. MADem Mar 2012 #133

I will post the picture again. You are mistaken. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #134

I will repeat that people withdrawing from drugs sometimes move about violently. MADem Mar 2012 #145

Withdrawal from opiates does not make one lose consciousness or lose control in the sense that HiPointDem Mar 2012 #148

This woman was on no drugs. We don't know what kind of drugs the "doctor" assumed she was on. MADem Mar 2012 #149

When you go into the hospital and say you have pain, they don't give you amphetamines. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #151

No, but opiates can calm you down if you can't get your coke or meth, can't they? MADem Mar 2012 #154

Let's see: the "metal bunk" argument is bunk, the "painkiller withdrawal" argument is bunk, now HiPointDem Mar 2012 #155

None of it is "bunk." The metal bunk had a rubber mat on it. So what? MADem Mar 2012 #158

About 4 months ago I spent the night in an ER. geckosfeet Mar 2012 #13

You've given a good example of how the dedicated professionals handle difficult situations. pacalo Mar 2012 #30

So now if you're sick Turbineguy Mar 2012 #15

Ironically look at who won the award for best Hospital HipChick Mar 2012 #18

No doubt it's because they're good at keeping out the riff-raff. Crunchy Frog Mar 2012 #109

Take a look at her picture, that explains why they did this to her. Zalatix Mar 2012 #20

No, it was not insurance related... cynatnite Mar 2012 #23

Well I don't think ending up dead in a jail cell Rex Mar 2012 #26

We don't have all facts here. It's difficult to speculate on things like this. n/t cynatnite Mar 2012 #32

True, but one would think the cops would clear her with the Rex Mar 2012 #34

It was the doctors who cleared her medically... cynatnite Mar 2012 #35

I guess the cops thought she was looking for drugs Rex Mar 2012 #47

I do think they jumped the gun on whether or not she was a drug seeker... cynatnite Mar 2012 #51

I went to the ER Heathen57 Mar 2012 #103

You're not actually thinking about introducing facts here, are you? YellowRubberDuckie Mar 2012 #85

I don't care what "mental" issues she had, liberalhistorian Mar 2012 #27

There are any number of reasons why those clots could have been missed... cynatnite Mar 2012 #31

I understand that, that was precisely the point I was trying to make. liberalhistorian Mar 2012 #61

She had gone to 2 other hospitals as well... cynatnite Mar 2012 #66

Thank you for posting all you have here. I read about this yesterday, had to be offline for the uppityperson Mar 2012 #75

It's also one of the signs that the "treatment" didn't work and the patient is still in pain. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #165

they thought she was a drug seeker noiretextatique Mar 2012 #44

she died because of blood clots in her leg noiretextatique Mar 2012 #36

Yes, we know that... cynatnite Mar 2012 #39

the facts are: she was complaining of leg pain and hauled off to jail noiretextatique Mar 2012 #41

The facts are in her medical records and no one can make a judgment one way or the other... cynatnite Mar 2012 #48

she did die from a blood clot, did she not? in jail, after she refused to leave noiretextatique Mar 2012 #56

It does not make the hospital liable... cynatnite Mar 2012 #60

i am not saying the hospital is liable noiretextatique Mar 2012 #63

With the Affordable Care Act and medicare for all you would not be having this conversation. xtraxritical Mar 2012 #141

She went to several hospitals because the problem persisted despite the supposed "treatment". HiPointDem Mar 2012 #140

Before taking this one article's word for it....check out these others as well... cynatnite Mar 2012 #24

"My sister is not here today because people passed judgment" noiretextatique Mar 2012 #38

It is very relevant... cynatnite Mar 2012 #42

they thought she was a drug seeker noiretextatique Mar 2012 #46

And she had no drugs in her system. MADem Mar 2012 #50

They did an ultrasound and found no clot... cynatnite Mar 2012 #54

i am not trying to condemn them either: but per the police report noiretextatique Mar 2012 #57

Which is a very common happening in an ER... cynatnite Mar 2012 #62

i know...my cousin is an ER nurse noiretextatique Mar 2012 #65

Very true... cynatnite Mar 2012 #68

yes it was noiretextatique Mar 2012 #70

Heartbreaking. MADem Mar 2012 #40

They thought she was seeking, and maybe wanted a roof for the night. moriah Mar 2012 #74

The Republican Health Care Plan: Devil_Fish Mar 2012 #45

From one of the articles: jonthebru Mar 2012 #55

The mission statement of St. Mary's, from their web site: begin_within Mar 2012 #72

I think I want to puke. pennylane100 Mar 2012 #79

That's a sick joke. surrealAmerican Mar 2012 #97

I really despise this country sometimes Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #78

This makes me so sad. Quantess Mar 2012 #81

Institutional racism malaise Mar 2012 #82

that fucking doctor should be banned from practicing medicine cali Mar 2012 #84

That is possibly one of the saddest videos I've ever watched. trumad Mar 2012 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author Evasporque Mar 2012 #93

I self deleted because I had a TMI moment... Evasporque Mar 2012 #94

This country is a bureaucratic cesspool. n/t EmeraldCityGrl Mar 2012 #88

IMO Mr Dixon Mar 2012 #89

Health Care Police State! ThatsMyBarack Mar 2012 #90

"Best health care system in the world" Doctor_J Mar 2012 #96

omg Liberal_in_LA Mar 2012 #99

Maybe I am jumping the gun here, but before I click the link I am going to make a guess: tblue37 Mar 2012 #100

yes I was shocked as well Enrique Mar 2012 #104

St. Mary's Health Center tabasco Mar 2012 #101

I nearly died in 2007 from a blood clot in my leg going to my lungs Hepburn Mar 2012 #102

I developed a clot after surgery 2 years ago...the nurse turned me away HipChick Mar 2012 #118

I walked into an ER with a head injury once EFerrari Mar 2012 #136

there are no words. that hospital must be reviewed. RIP Anna. You deserved better. roguevalley Mar 2012 #108

Coppers (usually right wingers) enforcing the death panels against the non-1%? Dawson Leery Mar 2012 #131

"Christian charity" baldguy Mar 2012 #161

TYT talks about this: Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #163

Kicking this again. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #164

Homeless woman's death in police custody stirs anger in St. Louis Judi Lynn Apr 2012 #166