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In reply to the discussion: Hillary Clinton, the unrepentant hawk [View all]Martin Eden
(15,662 posts)All members of the House and Senate (unless they were appointed) were elected, and get feedback from their constituents. But you have offered zero facts regarding that feedback. Do you recall the huge protests in NYC against the war, before the war was launched? Also, are you saying a senator should abdicate her own best judgment in matters of war & peace based on the relative handful of constituents who provide feedback?
All of which is entirely besides the point, which is why your response is a non-sequitur.
The issue at hand is whether Hillary Clinton should have known the Bush administration was hell-bent on invading Iraq and that a vote for the Iraq War Resolution would result in war in Iraq.
You haven't addressed that key point at all, except to ask a question which confirms the point I was making in my previous post. I clearly stated Hillary should have known Bush would invade regardless of the inspections process, that Bush exceeded his authority, and that Hillary failed to call him on the carpet for it.
The only thing we agree on is that no candidate is perfect on every issue. By stating the obvious, you appear to have conceded Hillary was not perfect in her vote for the IWR.
I will further define what "not perfect" means on this particular issue:
If ever strong Democratic leadership was needed to avert a foreign policy catastrophe, it was the IWR vote in October 2002. Anyone who was not woefully ignorant about the available intelligence and the PNAC agenda for invading Iraq knew a vote for the IWR was a vote for war. For anyone with presidential ambitions, this was a crucial test of judgment and leadership. Hillary Clinton, and every member of Congress who voted for the IWR (including John Kerry & Joe Biden) failed the American people miserably when judgment and leadership were needed the most.