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67. It was just lame. If you were Gwenyth Paltrow, a member of the LGBT community, an atheist, or

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 07:38 PM

Apr 2014

a Whole Foods shopper, your ox was certainly gored. If you hold liberal views, you were mocked for being snit-farty/whiney; if you were a tea partier/Republican, you were characterized as a dumb, underpaid gun nut in need of health care.

A lot of broad brushing, and sure, that is what humor does, but I agree, it wasn't one of his better efforts.

It wasn't an "end of the world" bit--he's got to come up with one every week; they can't all be gems--it just wasn't particularly smart or clever. Everyone's entitled to a few bad choices. I'm guessing his staff has gotten some feedback.

I sometimes catch the show "after the fact" ON DEMAND, but I will admit that, while I play it, I might not always be paying much attention to it. It just depends. Some shows ARE better than others!

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Maybe this is what Bill Maher was talking about ,we have become too politically correct [View all] oneofthe99 Apr 2014 OP

Schveiks! One person has vague doubts... TreasonousBastard Apr 2014 #1

well it is kinda odd, IMO hfojvt Apr 2014 #21

she sounds like a real Niceguy1 Apr 2014 #28

I can't tell if you're serious. Brickbat Apr 2014 #2

What the Problem? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #106

Is that's what's happening in this story? MellowDem Apr 2014 #129

I think Bill Maher was right on point quinnox Apr 2014 #3

Creeping authoritarianism = Minorities not taking shit anymore...? nt MADem Apr 2014 #9

Nope, more like spying on people, and the use of propaganda to spread fear quinnox Apr 2014 #11

How exactly is PC tantamount to any of that? NuclearDem Apr 2014 #14

You are missing the point quinnox Apr 2014 #16

PC has absolutely nothing to do with authoritarianism. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #18

Wow, I couldn't disagree more. quinnox Apr 2014 #25

No. That minority groups inform the general public why certain words are offensive NuclearDem Apr 2014 #35

"putting an end to the use of those words" quinnox Apr 2014 #40

No. Newspeak is aimed at reducing the ability for critical thought. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #42

Well, I can see we are on the opposite ends of the spectrum on this. What you say sounds good, up to quinnox Apr 2014 #43

I agree/disagree but for another reason REP Apr 2014 #68

I became very frustrated during Occupy deutsey Apr 2014 #86

Yet ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #108

Authoritarians USE other people's issues to impose restrictions on everyone. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #58

... NuclearDem Apr 2014 #71

The "gay mafia" rant was from...Bill Maher, in fact Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #82

I'm certainly missing it. What does PC have to do with authoritarianism, fearmongering, and spying? DanTex Apr 2014 #34

What I'm getting is that to be against surveillance state and MIC tendencies NuclearDem Apr 2014 #37

Yes ... it is very telling, Huh? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #107

I think you might need to review the OP as well as what Maher was saying. nt MADem Apr 2014 #17

ITA JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #30

MADem, don't you know? In the history of the world it's always been MINORITIES that have relied Number23 Apr 2014 #62

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #112

LOL, there is no connection at all to spying. NONE, this post is ridiculous. bettyellen Apr 2014 #110

Minorities like Gwyneth Paltrow? Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #52

Well, that's a bit weak, to even throw her in there when it comes to any gripes about MADem Apr 2014 #64

I stopped watching Maher a while ago. Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #65

It was just lame. If you were Gwenyth Paltrow, a member of the LGBT community, an atheist, or MADem Apr 2014 #67

Wow! ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #97

You need to read more carefully. You miss nuance when you skim. nt MADem Apr 2014 #99

Don Sterling most likely shares your righteous stance... LanternWaste Apr 2014 #105

St. Patricks day is next :) snooper2 Apr 2014 #4

It should be. There's nothing "celebratory" about people vomiting green beer and MADem Apr 2014 #7

agreed, but all cultures steal customs and rituals from all other cultures snooper2 Apr 2014 #8

Like I said, nothing wrong with having fun, to include alcoholic fun. MADem Apr 2014 #15

I am certainly saying "Don't have a drink" hfojvt Apr 2014 #20

Well, if you are saying that, you are in a distinct minority. MADem Apr 2014 #23

Not to worry. Dartmouth allowed a man to publish a letter calling to rape a woman in the same dorm seabeyond Apr 2014 #5

Whining about "PC" is the mark of someone on weak ground. MADem Apr 2014 #6

But I WANT to wear my Speedy Gonzalez costume and shout ARRIBA! while funneling 3 Coronas at a time! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2014 #10

Better slam all three down before "La Cucaracha" finishes playing, too! MADem Apr 2014 #19

And some people want to be able to eat chips and salsa on a Mexican holiday hughee99 Apr 2014 #100

Yes. n/t Orsino Apr 2014 #137

I fail to see any problem here. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #12

I know you don't oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #27

But that you do is telling. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #38

Cultural appropriation happens all the time. rrneck Apr 2014 #13

Yes. The ones who turned it into a pissing contest--who took their ball and went home--were the MADem Apr 2014 #22

It's a two way street. rrneck Apr 2014 #29

Of course they weren't going to "serve" alcohol...the kids would bring their own. MADem Apr 2014 #36

Unless the organizers of the event advertised "bring your own booze" rrneck Apr 2014 #39

You don't need an "advertisement" for college kids to do what college kids do. MADem Apr 2014 #50

Rocket science is simple by comparison. rrneck Apr 2014 #55

But that's not true. The whole south-bashing thing has been discussed here many times. MADem Apr 2014 #61

And it seems that no matter how many times it is discussed rrneck Apr 2014 #63

Well, there's a learning curve for sensitivity towards the Mexican - American community, too. MADem Apr 2014 #66

You seem to be missing the point that I am trying to make. rrneck Apr 2014 #74

If this fundraiser is of "no concern" to you, you could have certainly fooled me. MADem Apr 2014 #75

This issue is very interesting. rrneck Apr 2014 #77

I've agreed with you as well--did I not concur that regional bashing isn't a good thing? MADem Apr 2014 #78

She's attending Dartmouth. rrneck Apr 2014 #79

She's attending Dartmouth, she has a bright future... MADem Apr 2014 #80

Good for them indeed. rrneck Apr 2014 #94

What people are missing is that Ms. Hernandez made no demands. MADem Apr 2014 #95

Well, if all it takes is an expression of displeasure rrneck Apr 2014 #96

All you have to do is look at some of the photos on the net and it is clear what these MADem Apr 2014 #98

you well and truly nailed it, MaDem nt steve2470 Apr 2014 #59

Thanks--I try! nt MADem Apr 2014 #124

You did azmom Apr 2014 #130

I guess I missed the part of the story about her demand for homage to Mexican culture. merrily Apr 2014 #85

I'm a lot less interested in the particulars of a single occurrence rrneck Apr 2014 #93

Hernandez said she was offended, and wrote to several authorities about it muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #32

What do you want me to say? How "dare" a woman of Mexican heritage be offended? MADem Apr 2014 #44

The problem is you think the organisers caved too easily muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #51

No, I'm not saying what you think I am saying at ALL. MADem Apr 2014 #69

So when the woman said she was offended by the event with quasi-Mexican food, they accepted that muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #70

Did you even read what she wrote? I can't believe that you did. MADem Apr 2014 #72

Again, you need to be consistent - if a 'Cinque de Mayo' event is offensive, then they did the right muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #84

I am being consistent, and I am telling you that these "phiesta" events, run by fraternities, MADem Apr 2014 #87

The expropriation and trivialization consisted of food and drink muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #88

No, it didn't--it consisted of drinking and costumes, which, though "discouraged" MADem Apr 2014 #89

The description in the OP does not include costumes muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #90

Look, I went to the source, the Dartmouth paper, and I read not only the MADem Apr 2014 #91

What, no donkeys and saguaro cactus?! Scootaloo Apr 2014 #128

Really--why not a cactus - shaped keg...? MADem Apr 2014 #132

"The Fighting Whities" YarnAddict Apr 2014 #122

I use "The Fighting Whities" as an example often--however, that's one small team at a MADem Apr 2014 #123

and one persons complaints Niceguy1 Apr 2014 #46

Not "one woman" -- reread the thread. Click the links. MADem Apr 2014 #76

All chartered Greek organizations have agreements and commitments to uphold basic mission alcibiades_mystery Apr 2014 #24

Yeah, but that sort of kicks the can down the road doesn't it? rrneck Apr 2014 #31

The relevant bylaw/policy would likely be a statement that the institution respects diversity alcibiades_mystery Apr 2014 #47

Your concern is noted. Skidmore Apr 2014 #26

Yes, cancellation of frat parties is a *huge* problem. The humanity! DanTex Apr 2014 #33

They got some pushback about a "crips and bloods" party last year. See upthread. nt MADem Apr 2014 #45

I think being PC is sometimes an excuse to ignore horrific injustice. Vattel Apr 2014 #41

how pc for a vast majority of whites not be able to create a hostile environment for the minority seabeyond Apr 2014 #48

It's really not that hard not be offensive. Lex Apr 2014 #49

Re-thinking the event so it offends no minority group is an issue, merrily Apr 2014 #53

Feel like you've entered a Free Republic thread? boston bean Apr 2014 #56

I've never heard Republicans complain about the p.c. culture, have you? merrily Apr 2014 #83

First of all azmom Apr 2014 #54

????? Niceguy1 Apr 2014 #81

I'm from the state azmom Apr 2014 #92

my copadres are from Niceguy1 Apr 2014 #101

It's compadres and Michoacan. azmom Apr 2014 #111

One would think ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #113

There you go, getting all facty on us. Wow. Just wow. closeupready Apr 2014 #114

they even have one of those margarita blenders with the spout on it Niceguy1 Apr 2014 #116

Okay, who azmom Apr 2014 #120

And with that, you just ate this dumb thread and drank that poster's milk shake Number23 Apr 2014 #133

Funny, huh? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #135

Thank you for weighing in on this JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #102

Thanks azmom Apr 2014 #109

Cinco de Mayo is celebrated mostly in America... MellowDem Apr 2014 #131

You're trying too hard. Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #57

I hear you Bobbie Jo Skittles Apr 2014 #73

Look up at azmom's posts JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #103

Overreaching a little bit there, aren't you? Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #60

Probably depends on whether it is YOU that possibly might be offended ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #115

It's funny seeing people who aren't actually latino Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #117

It it's even funnier seeing people who aren't actually latino ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #118

You do know what a portmanteau is, right? Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #119

Not in this context ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #121

It's not about the NAME. The wingnuts would have you believe that, but don't get your news from MADem Apr 2014 #126

A Mexican - themed party is offensive? Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #127

It doesn't take much imagination ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #134

A party that uses antiquated peasant symbols in stereotypical fashion IS offensive. MADem Apr 2014 #136

It's not the "name" that is at issue specifically. MADem Apr 2014 #125

"PC" is code for "white people inconvenienced." n/t Orsino Apr 2014 #140

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #141

couldn't possibly have found another name for the event, had to cancel it entirely? unblock Apr 2014 #104

It's not the name--it's the negative stereotyping that goes with their choice of theme. MADem Apr 2014 #138

Maher was tying to understand why average people vote republican B Calm Apr 2014 #139