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In reply to the discussion: Maybe this is what Bill Maher was talking about ,we have become too politically correct [View all]rrneck
(17,671 posts)74. You seem to be missing the point that I am trying to make.
Of all the things in the universe that concern me, a fundraiser at Dartmouth is way down the list. It may however serve as an example of how complicated these things can be.
Determinations regarding the proper characterization of cultural norms are subjective in nature and require the cooperation of all parties involved. Since there is no objective standard the feelings expressed and interpreted are all we have to work with. There is ample room on both sides of the issue for unreasonable behavior. Some people are insensitive assholes, and some people cannot be mollified. Both behaviors are manipulative and obnoxious.
Hernandezs email was not sent directly to the presidents of A Phi or Phi Delt, but Schaub later alerted them to the email, Wong said.
Would the event have become insulting? I don't know. Very likely given the nature of the attendees. Did Ms. Hernandez overplay her hand by sounding the alarm before she made some attempt to work the matter out with the event organizers? I don't know. Very likely given the ideological verve and tendency of undergraduates to push the envelope in such matters. Is everyone involved playing to the crowd? Very likely.
I am fairly certain that under the circumstances I would not want my name associated with the cancellation of a fundraiser for cardiac care. I don't think Ms. Hernandez has done anyone any favors by handling the matter the way she did. In the end there are no images of drunken revelers in sombreros and fake mustaches but instead a plan offered by the organizers to work with various groups in the future. If that doesn't mollify you I don't know what will.
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This is what I wrote earlier:
And to top it off, as a son of the south I don't mind a bit if someone lampoons that region of the country, its culture or its inhabitants. The distinction that we have to make is whether such lampooning is done in jest or with malice, which is a subjective standard.
Mischaracterizing what I say should be beneath you.
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Maybe this is what Bill Maher was talking about ,we have become too politically correct [View all]
oneofthe99
Apr 2014
OP
No. That minority groups inform the general public why certain words are offensive
NuclearDem
Apr 2014
#35
Well, I can see we are on the opposite ends of the spectrum on this. What you say sounds good, up to
quinnox
Apr 2014
#43
I'm certainly missing it. What does PC have to do with authoritarianism, fearmongering, and spying?
DanTex
Apr 2014
#34
What I'm getting is that to be against surveillance state and MIC tendencies
NuclearDem
Apr 2014
#37
MADem, don't you know? In the history of the world it's always been MINORITIES that have relied
Number23
Apr 2014
#62
LOL, there is no connection at all to spying. NONE, this post is ridiculous.
bettyellen
Apr 2014
#110
Well, that's a bit weak, to even throw her in there when it comes to any gripes about
MADem
Apr 2014
#64
It was just lame. If you were Gwenyth Paltrow, a member of the LGBT community, an atheist, or
MADem
Apr 2014
#67
Not to worry. Dartmouth allowed a man to publish a letter calling to rape a woman in the same dorm
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#5
But I WANT to wear my Speedy Gonzalez costume and shout ARRIBA! while funneling 3 Coronas at a time!
alcibiades_mystery
Apr 2014
#10
Yes. The ones who turned it into a pissing contest--who took their ball and went home--were the
MADem
Apr 2014
#22
Of course they weren't going to "serve" alcohol...the kids would bring their own.
MADem
Apr 2014
#36
But that's not true. The whole south-bashing thing has been discussed here many times.
MADem
Apr 2014
#61
Well, there's a learning curve for sensitivity towards the Mexican - American community, too.
MADem
Apr 2014
#66
If this fundraiser is of "no concern" to you, you could have certainly fooled me.
MADem
Apr 2014
#75
I've agreed with you as well--did I not concur that regional bashing isn't a good thing?
MADem
Apr 2014
#78
All you have to do is look at some of the photos on the net and it is clear what these
MADem
Apr 2014
#98
I guess I missed the part of the story about her demand for homage to Mexican culture.
merrily
Apr 2014
#85
Hernandez said she was offended, and wrote to several authorities about it
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#32
So when the woman said she was offended by the event with quasi-Mexican food, they accepted that
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#70
Again, you need to be consistent - if a 'Cinque de Mayo' event is offensive, then they did the right
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#84
I am being consistent, and I am telling you that these "phiesta" events, run by fraternities,
MADem
Apr 2014
#87
No, it didn't--it consisted of drinking and costumes, which, though "discouraged"
MADem
Apr 2014
#89
I use "The Fighting Whities" as an example often--however, that's one small team at a
MADem
Apr 2014
#123
All chartered Greek organizations have agreements and commitments to uphold basic mission
alcibiades_mystery
Apr 2014
#24
The relevant bylaw/policy would likely be a statement that the institution respects diversity
alcibiades_mystery
Apr 2014
#47
They got some pushback about a "crips and bloods" party last year. See upthread. nt
MADem
Apr 2014
#45
how pc for a vast majority of whites not be able to create a hostile environment for the minority
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#48
And with that, you just ate this dumb thread and drank that poster's milk shake
Number23
Apr 2014
#133
Probably depends on whether it is YOU that possibly might be offended ...
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2014
#115
It's not about the NAME. The wingnuts would have you believe that, but don't get your news from
MADem
Apr 2014
#126
A party that uses antiquated peasant symbols in stereotypical fashion IS offensive.
MADem
Apr 2014
#136
couldn't possibly have found another name for the event, had to cancel it entirely?
unblock
Apr 2014
#104