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27. Even Obama says he'd be a moderate Republican in the 80s and that Nixon was more liberal.

Reply to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Mon Apr 28, 2014, 12:07 AM

Apr 2014

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101793318

Obama: I Would Be Considered Moderate Republican In 1980s - ABC News

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/03/obama_in_a_lot_of_ways_richard_nixon_was_more_liberal_than_i_was.html

Obama: "In A Lot of Ways Richard Nixon Was More Liberal Than I Was"

And it wasn't hyperbole - Chomsky, Alterman, and others have all said the same thing:

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/noam-chomsky-obama-would-have-been-called-moderate-republican-recent-decades

Noam Chomsky: Obama Would Have Been Called a ‘Moderate Republican’ in Recent Decades

http://billmoyers.com/2012/04/19/moyers-moment-2012-eric-alterman-on-how-liberal-president-obama-is/

Eric Alterman on How Liberal President Obama Is

ERIC ALTERMAN: Because as a society, we've moved incredibly further to the right, since Roosevelt's time. So that Richard Nixon is more liberal than -- personally, not, but as president -- he's more liberal than Barack Obama. All of the plans he put forth. He (Nixon) was more liberal than Bill Clinton. His health care plan was a better--

BILL MOYERS: Richard Nixon?

ERIC ALTERMAN: Yeah, oh, yeah.

And this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=967422&mesg_id=974360

Reply #119: Obama is so right-wing, he wouldn't be allowed to post here on DU

Obama: "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4422945&mesg_id=4422945

Skinner: "We expect all of our members to support equal rights for all people, regardless of sexual orientation. That includes the right to marry. ... If you are opposed to gay rights, you are a homophobe. Don't share that particular point of view here or else you're going to get banned. You've been warned."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1324374&mesg_id=1324374

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