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LuvNewcastle

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38. I don't think Obama did anything in Ukraine, really.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 05:50 AM
Apr 2014

I think our intelligence agencies had operations going on there that were outside of Obama's purview. I think that a lot of black ops in the intelligence agencies are done without the President's consent or knowledge, and it's been that way for quite some time now. They have their own agendas and are accountable to no one.

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DU Rec. eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #1
I believe the State Department Did Demeter Apr 2014 #2
The buck no longer stops there. truedelphi Apr 2014 #11
Unfortunately, true Demeter Apr 2014 #29
True. 840high Apr 2014 #33
No. wercal Apr 2014 #3
I think that the West had generally much less to do with what happened in Ukraine... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #4
It requires a double-theory of the CIA feigning incompetence all these years. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #6
Yeah, Rachel Maddow did a humorous piece on the CIA. She talked about all the world events okaawhatever Apr 2014 #18
No, actually we in the public were told at the time that they truedelphi Apr 2014 #44
You Will Pick Up Quite A Bit Of Navel Lint With This One, Sir... The Magistrate Apr 2014 #5
reuters and the un are russian agents? questionseverything Apr 2014 #7
I cannot read the OP to you. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #8
UN: Chemical weapons used in Syria appear to come from army stockpile pampango Apr 2014 #9
Of course, as Janet Reno often said, "We will never ever know." truedelphi Apr 2014 #10
One important thing we do know about what has gone on over there: truedelphi Apr 2014 #14
_grin_ BelgianMadCow Apr 2014 #36
_likewise_ truedelphi Apr 2014 #42
One problem I see is the "Government Assessment" being not a "Intelligence summary" jakeXT Apr 2014 #12
Sadly, that story is kind of a joke cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #15
And this is why the British Parliament voted against military intervention which sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #17
Cold war is back on and MI5 is hiring jakeXT Apr 2014 #19
If we had had a dozen other Hersh's out there doing real journalism, we truedelphi Apr 2014 #43
Whatever is the plan, I don't want war n/t 951-Riverside Apr 2014 #13
No. I think the our government helped overthrow the government and didn't care much Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #16
Re the Sarin Gas incident, that has been disputed over and over by investigators and many sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #20
Yes, we are indeed fucking with other nations all the time. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #22
Sadly our history shows us that the CIA have led covert TBF Apr 2014 #21
Anyone who believes the Ukraine govt are Nazis is falling for Russian propaganda. baldguy Apr 2014 #23
What if a person considers some of the Ukraine govt to be fascists? Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2014 #34
Russia's problem with Ukraine is that it isn't fascist enough. baldguy Apr 2014 #37
agreed on the nazi term, which is why i use fascist instead Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2014 #41
K&R Progressive dog Apr 2014 #24
Foreign policy can be sumarized in two things nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #25
This: NuclearDem Apr 2014 #39
No, they are not Nazis. They are facists. FarCenter Apr 2014 #26
Nope Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #27
it's a matter of fact that the U.S. was involved Enrique Apr 2014 #28
Obama? Hell no. The U.S. govt (which has been doing this since before I was born)? Maybe. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #30
Fascist, not Nazi. Obama? No... ballyhoo Apr 2014 #31
Ukraine: Joe Biden Promotes U.S. as Fracking Missionary Force nationalize the fed Apr 2014 #32
No. Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #35
I don't think Obama did anything in Ukraine, really. LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #38
Only if you desire to have charred pants. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #40
Again. Read Peter Dale Scott. The Deep State doesn't work that way. Junkdrawer Apr 2014 #45
Yes. I also believe that Obama is Kang Arkana Apr 2014 #46
No. LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #47
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