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133. Faith is not a logical fallacy. It exists outside the bounds of logic.

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Why Christian Movies Continue To Crush It At The Box Office [View all] FarCenter Apr 2014 OP

I hadn't realized "Noah" was a Christian Movie. n/t eShirl Apr 2014 #1

It's not, it's made by an atheist and until it was needed as part of the list Christians Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #5

I think he meant that Noah is an OT story, not a NT story. stopbush Apr 2014 #16

it's counted as one of 4 recent Christian movies eShirl Apr 2014 #83

it shouldn't be lame54 Apr 2014 #115

It's a Jewish story, made by a Jewish director, that used lots of Midrash villager Apr 2014 #159

I think the point is... lame54 Apr 2014 #160

Well, but the material Aronofsky used is part of the point, too. "Midrash" is not part of villager Apr 2014 #161

Well, to be fair to the christians... Scootaloo Apr 2014 #82

So true. I didn't think the intelligentsia here on DU were so misinformed demosincebirth Apr 2014 #138

People will always pay to be told what they want to hear. nt rrneck Apr 2014 #2

Because movie theaters are dying so they're turning to the church to keep them afloat 951-Riverside Apr 2014 #3

that's funny..... there was an old movie theater in town ejpoeta Apr 2014 #84

It all started with the torture porn known as The Passion phil89 Apr 2014 #4

It really started with Big Blue Marble Apr 2014 #35

"The Ten Commandments" 1923. Jenoch Apr 2014 #45

I have seen it too! Big Blue Marble Apr 2014 #49

I've wondered something about the 1956 film. Jenoch Apr 2014 #62

Ben Hur is from 1959, currently owned by Turner, but MGM who made the 59 version Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #93

10 Commandments! Edward G. Robinson...."Nyah, nyah...where's yer messiah NOW????" MADem Apr 2014 #102

Wierdest.Casting.Ever. (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2014 #146

I kept expecting him to come out sneering and saying things like MADem Apr 2014 #153

right here... lame54 Apr 2014 #116

"crush it" is an overstatement Orrex Apr 2014 #6

and here I thought Noah was jewish lol nt msongs Apr 2014 #14

So was Jesus...but don't tell the Christians! stopbush Apr 2014 #17

Noah predates Abraham Half-Century Man Apr 2014 #27

Yep. Harry_Scrote Apr 2014 #33

"Heaven is for Real" is a perverted fantasy aimed at Pentecostals/Charismatics Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #31

Huh so us plain old Christians AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #76

I agree with you. Noah, which was soundly crticized as trief by Christians is lumped Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #94

It's doing pretty well... Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2014 #148

What is it to any of you? Union Scribe Apr 2014 #7

Valid point if the people that flock to these mmonk Apr 2014 #8

So what way does "Heaven is Real" force people to vote? Union Scribe Apr 2014 #13

...^ that 840high Apr 2014 #51

People don't think superhero stories are real. phil89 Apr 2014 #11

So..... AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #77

If all of your education has simply led you to an argument from ignorance fallacy phil89 Apr 2014 #107

You just proved his assumption joeglow3 Apr 2014 #120

By correctly pointing out a logical fallacy? phil89 Apr 2014 #124

LOL of course not AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #128

I'm very open minded, in fact. Please provide evidence of your god claim and I'll believe. phil89 Apr 2014 #167

Faith is not a logical fallacy. It exists outside the bounds of logic. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #133

Interesting AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #135

I would never say God doesn't exist. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #137

You Sure You Know What Faith Means? ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #157

I do not have faith. phil89 Apr 2014 #165

There is no AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #129

Please don't misunderstand. Atheism does not require faith. phil89 Apr 2014 #166

Truth and faith are much weaker concepts than most, including you, want to admit... Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #131

Is Tautology 101 in session? AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #132

Ask an astrophysicist if the universe is bounded and they will give you a similar explanation. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #136

DU Cred... Must. Hate. Faith. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2014 #12

Yep. Union Scribe Apr 2014 #15

"Faith" is very much a George W. Bush term Nevernose Apr 2014 #21

Good points. Thanks. Lex Apr 2014 #43

Can you explain what's wrong with "hating faith"? alp227 Apr 2014 #38

Well yeah - there's nothing wrong with hating people because they think el_bryanto Apr 2014 #41

...^ that 840high Apr 2014 #56

I'd offer that people here don't hate people who are different than them Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #100

^^ this ^^ Phlem Apr 2014 #103

Yes. Gets tiresome. 840high Apr 2014 #55

Only some faiths....NT Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #60

Get off the cross, we need the wood. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #66

Why do you need the wood? AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #78

No reason. (hides matches behind back.) LeftyMom Apr 2014 #99

Oh AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #125

LMFAO AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #74

Yup, to be considered a member of the DU uber-hip necessitates regular mention of an ... 11 Bravo Apr 2014 #92

Helps it you're sporting a "soul patch" Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2014 #147

It's called "tolerance" ;-) Puddy Apr 2014 #150

Superhero movies don't generally encourage a belief in real-world magical thinking Orrex Apr 2014 #20

The fact that the book was listed as "non-fiction" scares me. white_wolf Apr 2014 #25

I agree, and I feel the same way about tales of "reincarnated" children Orrex Apr 2014 #26

That really isn't a strange waste of time, it can be productive snooper2 Apr 2014 #29

So you beilieve that that child actually visited Heaven? As in non-fiction level ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #34

Possibly AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #75

As soon as someone rolls out "you can't prove or disprove it!"... Silent3 Apr 2014 #91

Charming AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #127

Please explain how criticism of a tired, hackneyed Silent3 Apr 2014 #130

I have an open mind AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #134

When did I ever say that a god or gods can't possibly exist? Silent3 Apr 2014 #144

LOL, sensitive? Look up "Discussion Board" and quit whining! nt Logical Apr 2014 #44

I would imagine wheniwasincongress Apr 2014 #9

Exactly... jmowreader Apr 2014 #81

I saw "Heaven Is For Real" Wednesday and must say I enjoyed it very much. The actors were monmouth3 Apr 2014 #10

Saw it with my family - we 840high Apr 2014 #54

Truth be told, most movies are stupid. kwassa Apr 2014 #18

Ten Mainstream films or ten films in general? nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #42

ten films of any kind. kwassa Apr 2014 #46

That's not accurate el_bryanto Apr 2014 #47

90% of everything is crap... lame54 Apr 2014 #117

I think it is refreshing Redford Apr 2014 #19

$22.5 million is "Crush(ing) It At The Box Office? 99Forever Apr 2014 #22

It's the largest Easter opening for a faith-based film Brother Buzz Apr 2014 #24

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows � Part 2 99Forever Apr 2014 #40

Harry Potter was comparatively fact-based. n/t Gore1FL Apr 2014 #63

Good marketing? These films were released during the Lent/Easter season, stopbush Apr 2014 #23

Times them about right for a DVD release for Christmas Shopping Season too. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #70

Also, alot of kids were on Spring Break... blueamy66 Apr 2014 #86

"Heaven is for Real" is is bibically inacurate, more so than Noah. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #28

I'm not a fundie - enjoyed 840high Apr 2014 #57

Because churches will market them cheaply LeftyMom Apr 2014 #30

Are you implying that people who watch religious-themed movies are stupid? LittleBlue Apr 2014 #32

Yes, since generally they are falling for the life after death scam FarCenter Apr 2014 #37

How would you know? 840high Apr 2014 #53

You don't expect your software to continue running after you unplug your PC and remove the battery FarCenter Apr 2014 #58

You think software is a "mind"? bananas Apr 2014 #65

Incarnation doesn't work because there is no mechanism for transfer FarCenter Apr 2014 #97

There is also no way to create something from nothing joeglow3 Apr 2014 #122

You don't die when you reach your destination and get out of your car. Your problem is you confuse KittyWampus Apr 2014 #88

I'm not confusing the mind with the brain FarCenter Apr 2014 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Apr 2014 #90

As are imaginary red and blue lines we often fight over, for and behind... LanternWaste Apr 2014 #108

I would imply that anyone who says Mariana Apr 2014 #68

Free tickets, paid for by PACs ... GeorgeGist Apr 2014 #36

If I feel like watching bad movies, I'd watch Michael Bay films. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #39

E.T is actually the Christ story redone KurtNYC Apr 2014 #48

And the Atari Video game is Christianity! Gore1FL Apr 2014 #64

But no one pretends that E.T. isn't fiction Mariana Apr 2014 #69

Holy S... I never thought of it that way. Xyzse Apr 2014 #110

Friend of mine calls them a new movie genre... Rosco T. Apr 2014 #50

I happen to love 840high Apr 2014 #52

The statement about candy, birth, and time still holds true. hobbit709 Apr 2014 #59

Well Cartman proved that it's easier to make a Christian rock album. Initech Apr 2014 #61

What I find interesting is that on DU it seems to be a sport Jenoch Apr 2014 #67

Let's test this.....I agree BTW AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #79

A quick read of the comment you've responded to does not cordelia Apr 2014 #87

That's because Christianity is the dominant religion in the culture and the one Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #101

What makes you think we are supposed to live in a secular society? Jenoch Apr 2014 #112

Uh, the U.S. Constitution? Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #113

Where in the constitution does it say that? Jenoch Apr 2014 #114

There is no government establishment of religion. This is not a theocracy -- or at least it's not Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #118

"There is no government establishment of religion." Jenoch Apr 2014 #121

Yes, that is a representation of a secular society. kcr Apr 2014 #140

A 'secular' society means a society completely free from religion. Jenoch Apr 2014 #141

Wrong n/t kcr Apr 2014 #142

'Secular' Jenoch Apr 2014 #143

Yes. A definition of the word secular. Good for you! You know how to use google. kcr Apr 2014 #145

I bash all religions because they require belief in the non-sensical and illogical... truebrit71 Apr 2014 #149

Bullshit. Jenoch Apr 2014 #152

That's got nothing to do with what I said... truebrit71 Apr 2014 #154

There are nuts of all and no faiths. Jenoch Apr 2014 #156

Yes. Take a look at what happens across the planet in the name of the supreme cloud being... truebrit71 Apr 2014 #158

Way to move the goalpost. The topic was Christianity. Jenoch Apr 2014 #162

Wait, you think the anti-gay legislation in Uganda is being sponsored by Hindus? truebrit71 Apr 2014 #163

"Take a look at what happens across the planet in the name of the supreme cloud being... Jenoch Apr 2014 #164

NOT FOR LONG...GODZILLA WILL STOMP THEM ALL... yuiyoshida Apr 2014 #71

Only if Blue Oyster Cult is involved! Initech Apr 2014 #72

The "plain people?" n/t Skip Intro Apr 2014 #73

Noah != "Christian". Jewish, maybe. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #80

Christian movies are not "crushing" anything. djean111 Apr 2014 #85

The article is not even accurate about the actual numbers, finals put Divergent above Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #96

#1. "Spiritual" or even "Religious" might be more accurate than "Christian". KittyWampus Apr 2014 #89

Interesting note Marrah_G Apr 2014 #95

the ad for group rates . is for Niceguy1 Apr 2014 #119

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #104

You know. If you don't go see a Christian movie you'll go to Hell. Lint Head Apr 2014 #105

I really don't care Savannahmann Apr 2014 #106

adorable, kid with dimples versus Jonny Depp disintegrating into computer? librechik Apr 2014 #109

Religious films have been decent box office for a long time. nyquil_man Apr 2014 #111

friend of mine say the heaven movie last friday -i made a joke about it to her and she got offended. dembotoz Apr 2014 #123

I'm certain it had nothing to do with April and Easter notadmblnd Apr 2014 #126

The book it is based on was "co-written" by Sarah Palin's biographer. Starry Messenger Apr 2014 #139

They're doing OK and making money, but I'd hardly call it a CRUSH Warpy Apr 2014 #151

Also worth noting Blue_Adept Apr 2014 #155