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In reply to the discussion: "The Buck Stops at the FCC"-(Net Neutrality) [View all]merrily
(45,251 posts)the issue comes up.
Typical example, when discussing some conservative measure, like the Grand Bargain, for example:
Q. Can Democrats convince their base that this is a good thing?
A. "The left has nowhere else to go."
IOW, no convincing of llberals need even be attempted. They are trapped.
Maybe learned helplessness does not happen without teachers?
I would not be surprised if Rahm said it. While in the White House, he did not hesitate to make his contempt for liberals quite obvious. Same for former press secretary Gibbs.
When I said "they" have a choice, I meant all politicians, not only Presidents. Over and over, we get sold out for lobbyists and the alleged good of the party. (Um, remind me how incredibly poorly the party did after FDR finally managed to unclog the New Deal from the Supreme Court. Americans elected him so many times, a Constitutional amendment limiting Presidents to two terms was passed after he died; and Americans lined railroad tracks for miles, just to pay their respects to the train carrying his corpse.
Yet, we're told over and over that liberal programs hurt the Party and liberals cannot get elected. Oh, yeah, and no one wants liberal anyway, at least not a majority of Americans. At the same time, though, look around the rest of this board: red states are liking Obamacare and that is not even that much of a liberal plan. Can you imagine what would have happened in 2010 and 2014 mid terms if it had been Medicare for all, or even a stronger public option?
Label something liberal and, sure, the efforts of both Republicans and New Democrats to "toxify" that word kick it, be it a program or a candidate. Leave off the descriptor, though, and America loves it some liberal programs, at least until the bipartisaan propaganda machine kicks in.