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Eleanors38

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66. Elites scoring high on the CompassionIndex get special dispensation?

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 12:31 PM

Apr 2014

Do tell. In any event, this situation mirrors the gun-control outlook outside GD: MSM with its declining influence nevertheless drones on with its prohibitionist outlook, even as it routinely faces Mecca & mumbles something about open discussion, fairness, and stuff.

Looking at the dynamic further, a certain controller posting reams of distracting, pre-aggregated "anti-" posts in RKBA, while others run "anti-" posts (often the same material) in GD has its purposes. One is to promote an "anti-" hegemony front-and-center in DU's main & most-public forum, a roundabout way of creating a spindly reality that DU is almost all anti-gun, even as Bansalot (with its rigid too-down control) languishes (they're all over here!). The other, of course, is to continue a campaign of stigmata and animosity against gun-owning Democrats. More the merrier.

But DU is in reality Not anti- .

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Woman's life threatened by gun 'enthusiasts' after developing a safer firearm. [View all] RandySF Apr 2014 OP

These "enthusiasts" are nothing but bullying, violent thugs villager Apr 2014 #1

they are COWARDS Skittles Apr 2014 #2

They're terrorists. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #4

SAME THING Skittles Apr 2014 #6

No, they're not. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #19

IOKIYAR. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #21

Is that a new brand of Greek yogurt or something? I love that stuff! Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #22

It's OK If You Are Republican CrispyQ Apr 2014 #33

meh -- I like Greek yogurt better Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #38

LOL. "both sides" DanTex Apr 2014 #47

Yes, as proven by the blowhard posts about "terr'ism!!!" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #51

Oh yeah, I forgot, you were the one comparing Cliven Bundy to Rosa Parks. DanTex Apr 2014 #56

Again, it's not terrorism. Anymore than OWS refusing to vacate property after being ordered was. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #61

Please proceed, governer... DanTex Apr 2014 #63

You forget to post the picture of your goons aiming sniper rifles long before that picture was taken Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #71

And, obviously, the solution is guns for everyone! Cliven Bundy, the hero! DanTex Apr 2014 #75

As opposed to the idea that the goons should have a monopoly on guns? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #85

Actually, yes, the state has a monopoly on the use of force. That's part of what makes it the state. DanTex Apr 2014 #87

The state is lawful and benevolent, until it isn't. Throd Apr 2014 #90

Very profound. DanTex Apr 2014 #92

Your goons ARE the warlords. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #93

Of course the police serve the law. As do the courts. DanTex Apr 2014 #98

The police serve the law? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #108

The police serve the police. Throd Apr 2014 #114

Very profound again. DanTex Apr 2014 #120

Not true. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #139

Of course they serve the law. "Law Enforcement Officers". DanTex Apr 2014 #119

Just because the job description reads "Law enforcement officer" doesn't make it true. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #137

Yes, it is true. And the fact that occasionally they do bad things doesn't change that. DanTex Apr 2014 #140

I'm sure you are very proud of your unflinching obedience to The State. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #143

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #146

"I imagine that you prefer the company of murderers and rapists" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #149

Ah yes, the fantasy of women defending themselves from rapists with AR-15s. DanTex Apr 2014 #152

Since you asked -- Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #157

Umm, I don't see anything about an AR-15. And also, that was a robbery attempt, not a rape. DanTex Apr 2014 #158

"I don't see anything about an AR-15." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #159

Lordy. Here come the phony/cherry picked statistics from a right-wing website. Shocker! DanTex Apr 2014 #161

How does any of your cited article conflict with anything I posted? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #163

Wow, you read the article pretty quickly! LOL. DanTex Apr 2014 #166

"Wow, you read the article pretty quickly! LOL." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #167

Assault with a deadly weapon is nothing to you? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #97

You mean like when the BLM goons were pointing sniper rifles at people? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #110

LOL!!! Thry THAT one before the judge! Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #175

You mean the people who are part of the system defend the system? GOLLY! Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #176

That's what you are doing, in case you hadn't noticed. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #177

take things literally, do ya? Skittles Apr 2014 #170

Why not go to those making the posts calling for drines strikes, etc. and ask them? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #171

I'll have to look into DRINES Skittles Apr 2014 #173

Of course they are. Iggo Apr 2014 #15

YOu do realize this woman is selling guns, right? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #20

"These 'enthusiasts'..."; "They are COWARDS..."; "Of course they are..." Iggo Apr 2014 #32

you're failing to distinguish between gun owners and gun humpers Skittles Apr 2014 #165

I imagine some of them traffic guns. Skidmore Apr 2014 #5

Ding ding we have a winner malaise Apr 2014 #12

Yeah but what about the so-called "free market" Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2014 #53

What free market malaise Apr 2014 #70

Exactly Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2014 #132

You are both right. The NRA doesn't really care about gun owners, they care about gun manufacturers, GoneFishin Apr 2014 #94

Like Leland Yee? Bazinga Apr 2014 #24

If the holster fits... Skidmore Apr 2014 #25

And I little sympathy for patent hypocrisy. Bazinga Apr 2014 #26

Meaning what? Skidmore Apr 2014 #27

Not you, Leland Yee. Bazinga Apr 2014 #30

No problem. Skidmore Apr 2014 #31

Really? You sure you want to play the "bedfellows" card? DanTex Apr 2014 #46

I'll consider that if you can show me "Cozying up" to anybody, much less Ted Nugent or Sarah Palin. Bazinga Apr 2014 #67

Supporting the NRA means supporting the Ted Nugents and Sarah Palins. DanTex Apr 2014 #72

Perhaps you have the receipt for my NRA dues on file. Bazinga Apr 2014 #84

OK, googled. An obscure state senator is the best you've got? Really? DanTex Apr 2014 #86

Again, hypocrisy should be condemned, no matter what letter is next to the name. Bazinga Apr 2014 #148

Sure, but you're highlighting the hypocrisy of some state senator that nobody cares about. DanTex Apr 2014 #150

A gun-controller doesn't know about Yee? Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #123

I don't think many people outside the NRA bubble know who that guy is. DanTex Apr 2014 #124

Yee's fellow CA controllers knew him quite well. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #130

Not sure about that. Only the gun fanatics seem to know him. DanTex Apr 2014 #134

Ha! Such a "movement." We keep up with your guys better than y'all do. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #155

True, right-wingers often obsess over obscure Democrats much more than Democrats do. DanTex Apr 2014 #156

Really not much point Turbineguy Apr 2014 #3

They are coming for our lightbulbs/gas-guzzlers !!! DetlefK Apr 2014 #7

Already the case in Maryland, Massachusetts, and New Jersey clffrdjk Apr 2014 #18

Sounds like typical 2A pushing, "responsible, law-abiding"... 99Forever Apr 2014 #8

Actually, it sound like the polar opposite of that. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #28

the true face of american gun culture... KG Apr 2014 #9

Half of her problem is she's a woman. Brickbat Apr 2014 #10

The other half is that she's Latina. KamaAina Apr 2014 #172

I agree they are cowards davidpdx Apr 2014 #11

I support firearms ownership Codeine Apr 2014 #13

I own firearms and have no intention of purchasing a gun with this tech. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Apr 2014 #16

Mechanical wins every time for durability... Mr_Rogers Apr 2014 #23

Despite their claims to the contrary, the pro-gun movement isn't particularly logical. Paladin Apr 2014 #17

there's no mystery Skittles Apr 2014 #169

What do you consider someone who just likes to collect old technology. NutmegYankee Apr 2014 #178

Absolutely unacceptable. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #29

Dupe. Topic covered heavily in 2 other gun groups. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #34

The More The Merrier otohara Apr 2014 #36

Again. A gross violation of TOS in GD... Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #37

That rule has clearly been suspended. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #42

Elites scoring high on the CompassionIndex get special dispensation? Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #66

Whining about DU is against the TOS. Doesn't seem to bother you that much. DanTex Apr 2014 #48

Gosh, if my "wine" was so full-bodied, I'd be hidden. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #74

Likewise, if this OP violated the TOS, it wouldn't be hidden also. DanTex Apr 2014 #77

See #78. Want you join me in my request? Nt Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #99

I'd have no problem changing the TOS. DanTex Apr 2014 #101

I hope your sense of statistics isn't derived from your calculations of history... Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #116

Yes, hiding. It's not much of a secret that the "DU is for Democrats" rule is lifted in the gungeon. DanTex Apr 2014 #117

Got that letter/post to ATA ready? Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #126

Here's mine. Where's yours? DanTex Apr 2014 #127

I just joined you nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #131

Mine is in ATA now. A correction is in order: Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #151

A correction, my impression is you guys really do not want debate nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #153

Anywhere you want it, but no tied hands. Have a good day as well. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #154

It's posted in ATA now. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #147

Speaking of Gross otohara Apr 2014 #54

Then join me in dropping the TOS, okay? I'll wait. Nt Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #78

Why are you trying to trick people about what's TOS and what's SOP? CreekDog Apr 2014 #174

first i'm seeing it... lame54 Apr 2014 #59

First time I cone across this IMPORTANT story nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #68

See #78 and let's open up IMPORTANT gun posts. nt Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #100

So you think making guns safer is not a political act? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #111

Agree, disagree. I'm talking OPs in GD... Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #118

So you are telling me it is not a political act nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #121

So you agree that OPs about any gun news are Okay? Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #128

Why the uproar? If you don't want a gun with such a feature, don't buy one. Throd Apr 2014 #35

Some have proposed that such unproven and opaque technology be mandatory. nt Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #39

Those "Some" being the ones who don't want it manditory jeff47 Apr 2014 #40

Not familiar with Senator Edward Markey of Massachusetts and Senate Bill S.2068? hack89 Apr 2014 #43

lol, nice link PeaceNikki Apr 2014 #103

Now that I have changed the link, care to actually comment on it? hack89 Apr 2014 #107

I trust DUers to not post links to bullshit sites. PeaceNikki Apr 2014 #112

You're saying no one would seriously propose such a requirement? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #44

Unproven and opaque? Umm... what? It's really not that complicated. DanTex Apr 2014 #45

1. Electronic devices fail all the time -- in case you hadn't noticed. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #49

Short-distance radio-wave devices fail all the time? Really? DanTex Apr 2014 #50

So have your armed goons use them. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #55

Umm... I don't have any armed goons. That would be your hero Cliven Bundy. DanTex Apr 2014 #57

Your armed goons, the cops. Those hyper-competent, selfless public servants you intend to Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #62

Of course! I never realized that the cops belonged to me personally. Awesome. DanTex Apr 2014 #64

"I never realized that the cops belonged to me personally." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #76

Like I said, I don't think you've thought through the consequences of not having a police force DanTex Apr 2014 #80

And you keep your Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #89

Racists, misogynists, and homophobes? You mean like Cliven Bundy? DanTex Apr 2014 #95

No. That's just the false association game the intellectually fragile need to play. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #105

False association? What? You compared Bundy to Rosa Parks!!! DanTex Apr 2014 #113

I'll worry about "law-abiding gun owners" when you can show me Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #141

LOL. Of course! Gun criminals aren't really criminals. That makes things so simple! DanTex Apr 2014 #144

So you think only people who meet your moral approval have rights? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #160

Quite the opposite. You are the one excusing the crimes of some simply because they share your DanTex Apr 2014 #162

Double points when the jammer is developed... Mr_Rogers Apr 2014 #81

If you like it so much go buy it and support them. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #58

I don't want a gun. DanTex Apr 2014 #60

So you have no intention of buying it, or using it. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #65

Umm, I'm not selling anything to anyone. You're not my consumer. DanTex Apr 2014 #83

Yea the threats are horrible and need to be delt with. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #88

I've never tested this technology, but in the age if iPhones, it's hard to imagine that DanTex Apr 2014 #104

So you don't know, and you have no way of proving anything. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #115

That's correct. But I can reason based on other technologies that exist, DanTex Apr 2014 #122

Your reasoning is faulty clffrdjk Apr 2014 #129

Yes, obviously, it's not exactly like an iPhone or an aircraft... DanTex Apr 2014 #133

The software my be simpler but the hardware will be basically the same. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #135

The safety argument isn't that complicated. DanTex Apr 2014 #136

How? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #138

How is it safer if only the owner can use the gun? You really need me to explain that? DanTex Apr 2014 #142

Again that is not how that is a goal. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #145

It is the interface with the gun's mechanical inner workings that I would worry about hack89 Apr 2014 #79

I think part of the reason the gun nuts in the OP are reacting with death threats is that they DanTex Apr 2014 #91

How do you design an interface that can be backfitted to every existing gun hack89 Apr 2014 #96

I don't know, I'm not a mechanical engineer or gunsmith. DanTex Apr 2014 #106

Let see how the free market handles it hack89 Apr 2014 #109

shameful... Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #41

The NRA: Safety Last Blue Owl Apr 2014 #52

Then, give people a break on home owner's insurance if they use it. JoePhilly Apr 2014 #69

Insurance is a pittance right now hack89 Apr 2014 #73

The gun nuts will stop at nothing to protect their right to stop at nothing liberal N proud Apr 2014 #82

Sounds like you agree with post #78. Join me! Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #102

Call them what they are: asshole bullies. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #125

I'd love to purchase such a firearm! NickB79 Apr 2014 #164

It's domestic terrorism. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #168

I'd like to defend myself, but first let me put on this special wrist watch... Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #179

Locking. Purveyor Apr 2014 #180