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9. There should be some legal recourse against Fallin

Reply to malaise (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 10:00 PM

Apr 2014

The states have to uphold the standards of the Eighth Amendment. There's no excuse for this!

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Holy shit - execution botched in Oklahoma tonight so second execution [View all] malaise Apr 2014 OP

Looney Governor Fallin. nt onehandle Apr 2014 #1

He died of a massive heart attack after malaise Apr 2014 #4

It's more important to kill a man than feed a man. onehandle Apr 2014 #5

Many here on the DU love the death penalty. nt Logical Apr 2014 #2

There is a group dedicated to that here called the Gungeon. nt madinmaryland Apr 2014 #10

I wish we could lock the door on that place. Ed Suspicious Apr 2014 #110

I have madokie Apr 2014 #115

On a visceral level, I can understand. But this just shows that the DP is too costly for a civilized nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #39

k&r... spanone Apr 2014 #3

KnR alittlelark Apr 2014 #6

He began breathing heavily, writhing on the gurney, clenching his teeth and straining to lift his herding cats Apr 2014 #7

Torture malaise Apr 2014 #8

There should be some legal recourse against Fallin herding cats Apr 2014 #9

I could see a wrongful death suit. morningfog Apr 2014 #20

I hope the family files one then. herding cats Apr 2014 #21

There is no good reason for this, none. Barbaric beyond words. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #12

It's a sick lust for their pound of flesh. herding cats Apr 2014 #19

Yes, agreed. DP should be abolished, the US is far behind. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #33

It should be illegal to draw the curtains. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #23

Sometimes it's the person's family in the viewing room. herding cats Apr 2014 #30

That is a hard question. Ms. Toad Apr 2014 #36

Many don't realize the family often comes to say their goodbyes. herding cats Apr 2014 #51

That certainly would be a major point of consideration. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #41

I understand. herding cats Apr 2014 #54

When he buried his victim alive - he lost 840high Apr 2014 #52

Revenge or justice? Beaverhausen Apr 2014 #57

That doesn't make this any less wrong. herding cats Apr 2014 #58

In cases like this 840high Apr 2014 #63

So why not just tie them down and let the victims families beat them to death? Major Nikon Apr 2014 #79

Your lack of response to my points in your reply, and your continuation of the same weak herding cats Apr 2014 #98

That's SICK!!! It's one thing to decide someone has it coming... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #68

Did he show sympathy for 840high Apr 2014 #80

SMH... nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #82

I'm not reveling in 840high Apr 2014 #84

But you APPROVE micraphone Apr 2014 #104

Well good for you. I have 840high Apr 2014 #150

Does a murderer's actions set the standard for how we act as a society? God, I hope not. Ed Suspicious Apr 2014 #103

Wouldn't be a thread on the death penalty without a sick fucking response like this. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #70

How come ur not vomitting 840high Apr 2014 #83

Right, because I find bloodlust and revenge despicable NuclearDem Apr 2014 #99

Let me try to help you understand. The state carried out the botched execution. morningfog Apr 2014 #125

An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind. Fearless Apr 2014 #72

Hopefully gollygee Apr 2014 #124

He was an accomplice to a girl being buried alive. He watched it happen and did nothing. Beausoir Apr 2014 #90

See my post #98 herding cats Apr 2014 #102

These medieval-style atrocities are an absolute embarrassment for the USA Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #11

Republicans keep this country savage. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #25

Unfortunately many Democrats support the death penalty too. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #28

I think I am for the death penalty in certain cases maybe. Serial torturer-killers, for example nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #60

Or maybe someone who rapes and murders a child? IronGate Apr 2014 #61

Yup. I see children raped and sliced or beaten to a pulp or whatever, and it doesn't bring out my Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #75

I know we've clashed on a certain issue, IronGate Apr 2014 #81

Right, but there is a right wing bloodthirstiness with regard to the death penalty which sickens Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #86

I'm with you. IronGate Apr 2014 #89

Same here. 840high Apr 2014 #87

How about someone who murders kids by arson? Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #94

Ooops indeed. Oh well. It's the cost of doing business . . . Am I right? Ed Suspicious Apr 2014 #109

I've never heard of that case, so I'm not familiar with it. nt Sarah Ibarruri May 2014 #153

It's rare when you and I agree on something Nye Scootaloo Apr 2014 #29

+1 nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #43

Why the fuck is "The Last Word" talking about the racist NBA owner, when madinmaryland Apr 2014 #13

Can you believe this crap? malaise Apr 2014 #22

I checked the CNN website, and this was there lead story... madinmaryland Apr 2014 #34

yes. during the last word segment hopemountain Apr 2014 #48

Execution botched before inmate dies of heart attack; second execution postponed spanone Apr 2014 #14

I hope the family files a wrongful death suit. morningfog Apr 2014 #16

And I hope the families of the murdered woman and 11 month old girl IronGate Apr 2014 #49

The basis for the wrongful death suit... Chan790 Apr 2014 #85

The prison comitted an act of negligence that resulted in a painful morningfog Apr 2014 #122

The family should be 840high Apr 2014 #53

He's still a person with a family. morningfog Apr 2014 #123

I will never support the death penalty malaise Apr 2014 #17

Barbarians afforded more dignity to those they killed. n/t Scootaloo Apr 2014 #31

The one thing I can say in favor of ancient execution methods is at least they acknowledged the nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #45

Right on Scootloo! IronGate Apr 2014 #50

Cruel and unusual. End the death penalty. morningfog Apr 2014 #15

Agreed malaise Apr 2014 #18

We really should congratulate the Europeans for their sanctions on execution drugs malaise Apr 2014 #26

- Takket Apr 2014 #24

Here malaise Apr 2014 #32

thanks for the link and.... WOW Takket Apr 2014 #47

but there is an nba team owner who said racist things. ejpoeta Apr 2014 #128

I'm anti-DP but how is it a vet can put a pet down gently while shit like this happens? Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2014 #27

Vets don't actually put a pet down gently. jeff47 Apr 2014 #91

Our vet gave that second shot while we were there. Raine1967 Apr 2014 #100

Not exactly Tree-Hugger Apr 2014 #108

Thank you for the clarification. OwnedByCats Apr 2014 #114

Not when our vet has euthanized our pets SoCalDem Apr 2014 #121

Pet euthanizations are typically peaceful OwnedByCats Apr 2014 #130

Veterinary euthanasia is not always gentle. Chan790 Apr 2014 #97

If your friend is using outdated drugs ... GeorgeGist Apr 2014 #117

I don't think he does it intentionally. Chan790 Apr 2014 #143

A lot of drug companies are refusing to sell their products for the purpose of execution. WatermelonRat Apr 2014 #148

When those companies stopped supplying the drugs, all executions should have been postponed. alarimer Apr 2014 #35

He buried his victim alive. Amak8 Apr 2014 #37

Karma? HipChick Apr 2014 #40

That thought went through my mind, too. IdaBriggs Apr 2014 #129

Are you saying you think he deserved to be tortured to death? Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #44

He undoubtedly deserved just that, but that does not mean we should be doing it. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #67

To say someone deserves some punishment is to imply someone should do it. So who should do it... Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #77

No, and for a number of reasons... Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #95

Yes. He stood by while a young girl was buried alive and he did nothing to save her. Beausoir Apr 2014 #93

+1 Jgarrick Apr 2014 #141

Torturing him to death won't bring his victim back. Nor will executing him, for that matter. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #46

Some countries (like mexico) consider life without parole just as barbaric 951-Riverside Apr 2014 #92

In many cases I don't doubt that's true. But what of those who are a permanent danger to society? nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #96

The baby rapist/killer who was next in line should have suffered like this 951-Riverside Apr 2014 #88

Will that comfort you? Knowing the man is afraid to die and now gets two more weeks to worry? CBGLuthier Apr 2014 #133

I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, most avebury Apr 2014 #38

Thanks for your post malaise Apr 2014 #119

"Oklahoma Is OK" n/t jtuck004 Apr 2014 #42

It's 2014 in the land of the free PrestonLocke Apr 2014 #55

next it will be MFM008 Apr 2014 #56

Somewhere a decider is chuckling Blue Owl Apr 2014 #59

I'm far more concerned with how his victim suffered than how this monster died; to Hell with him Jgarrick Apr 2014 #62

Classy as usual! nt Logical Apr 2014 #107

Being more concerned with the suffering of innocent victims than murderers? Yeah, I'm such a jerk.. Jgarrick Apr 2014 #139

+1 840high Apr 2014 #151

I hope that Governor Fallin lives a long life with a rapidly evaporating political career. Snarkoleptic Apr 2014 #64

Her Base is cheering this. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #65

This really makes me throw up. n/t Cleita Apr 2014 #66

I say, if a prisoner doesn't die during an execution adieu Apr 2014 #69

Fuck... jimlup Apr 2014 #71

He would have been better off if they just shot him. Jamastiene Apr 2014 #73

+1 Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2014 #138

I find it sad Fearless Apr 2014 #74

This is a horror. oldandhappy Apr 2014 #76

Wow, this thread's bringing them out of the woodwork. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #78

Disheartening to say the least. I thought revenge killing and bloodthirst were the province of the Ed Suspicious Apr 2014 #106

That is exactly what it is too. Jamastiene Apr 2014 #111

The death penalty always does. And ALWAYS, without exception, morningfog Apr 2014 #126

As if these stories aren't horrible enough Boreal Apr 2014 #101

You don't have this problem with a bullet behind the ear. PeteSelman Apr 2014 #105

if this was the dude who raped and murdersd Niceguy1 Apr 2014 #112

I understand the "who gives a f*ck" emotional response. But those folks are also missing the point. phleshdef Apr 2014 #113

Thank you micraphone Apr 2014 #116

+1,000 malaise Apr 2014 #118

Even if it were done humanely, it would still be wrong. nt pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #120

Agreed. Our acceptence of killing should not turn on the method or the cleanliness morningfog Apr 2014 #127

I hope constitutional scholars recognize this for what this is..... Swede Atlanta Apr 2014 #131

Governor of Oklahoma malaise Apr 2014 #136

Thanks Malaise... Swede Atlanta Apr 2014 #140

Cool malaise May 2014 #155

If they lifted their stay , how is this a crisis? n2doc Apr 2014 #142

According to the information I have Swede Atlanta Apr 2014 #149

I've said this before and I'll say it again. Lyric Apr 2014 #132

My favorite cousin was murdered malaise Apr 2014 #137

I think if one is not sure about the death penalty OwnedByCats Apr 2014 #134

It seems inhumanity has a following even here. 99Forever Apr 2014 #135

+1 Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #147

I don't understand raptor_rider Apr 2014 #144

See if you find me on those Vick threads n/t malaise Apr 2014 #145

Not that I'm for the death penalty, but maybe they're overthinking the cocktails. backscatter712 Apr 2014 #146

Everyone react different to medications. Even in hospice many suffer in their final hours. mucifer Apr 2014 #152

Doesn't cyanide cause foaming at the mouth, seizures, etc.? Nye Bevan May 2014 #154