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In reply to the discussion: By Ditching the Public Option, Obama Gave His Enemies a Path to the Supreme Court [View all]sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)103. A President
can bust a senator's ass anytime one fails to vote the party line on a piece of signature legislation.
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Better Believe It
Mar 2012
OP
President Obama opposed a public option so how could he pass something he was against?
Better Believe It
Mar 2012
#13
Explain how you get Lieberman to vote yes ... I'll spot you all the other blue dogs ... Go!!
JoePhilly
Mar 2012
#34
Who knows what his reason would be, maybe we needed to first build support or until ...
slipslidingaway
Mar 2012
#71
Do you read any links or just say Joe is all powerful and the president is powerless. n/t
slipslidingaway
Mar 2012
#135
The "study" that found 2/3rds of the country for single payer is not all that impressive
karynnj
Mar 2012
#98
No, not really, the Dec. 2007 AP-Yahoo Poll had 65/54% depending on how ...
slipslidingaway
Mar 2012
#133
Threaten his seniority and committee-chairs he was gifted despite not being an elected Democrat.
Chan790
Mar 2012
#79
I love your idea! The disgust I feel for this man is so great that I get sick just thinking about
CTyankee
Mar 2012
#125
Please list all Republican Senators that would have voted for the plan you suggest
karynnj
Mar 2012
#94
The Bully Pulpit is the Tee Vee, and it Only Works for the Repigs Because They Own All the Networks
AndyTiedye
Mar 2012
#85
Obama wasn't on board with Single Payer or Public Option when he was a candidate.
LiberalFighter
Mar 2012
#42
and how were you going to get LIEberman, nelson, lincoln, byah, and others to go for it? /nt
still_one
Mar 2012
#4
Twist their arms: Tell them that if they want any DNC money, they'd better toe the line
Lydia Leftcoast
Mar 2012
#107
+1. Sadly, so many blind supporters are okay with his lack of fight on the public option.
SmellyFeet
Mar 2012
#114
The only thing they should have done is say it was a tax, which probably would have prevented the
still_one
Mar 2012
#7
Agree. And the Congressional compromise enabled the expansion of Medicaid as well
pinto
Mar 2012
#10
Do you believe that President Obama wanted Medicare for All or a strong public option?
Better Believe It
Mar 2012
#20
Easier to win any Senator's vote than it is to get a SCOTUS decison reversed.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2012
#82
Tell him that you'll have the DNC flood his media market (Connecticut)
Lydia Leftcoast
Mar 2012
#109
This is the truth. The mandate probably is unconstitutional without a public option.
Maven
Mar 2012
#23
Yep Snowe, and all of the other 59 Senators needed to pass it all wanted it but Obama said
grantcart
Mar 2012
#40
News flash! It only takes 51 votes to pass legislation in the Senate, not 60.
Better Believe It
Mar 2012
#46
A simple majority of Senate votes have always been required to pass legislation, 51 today, not 60.
Better Believe It
Mar 2012
#64
Invoking cloture to end debate requires 60 votes. Passing legislation requires 51 votes.
Better Believe It
Mar 2012
#97
Obama did NOT ditch the public option. He would have been happy to sign any public option
pnwmom
Mar 2012
#48
We DID NOT Have the Votes, We DO NOT Have the Votes, We WILL NOT Have the Votes Any Time Soon
AndyTiedye
Mar 2012
#57
Obama did not have 51 votes to pass legislation he opposed, a health care public option.
Better Believe It
Mar 2012
#69
As I recall, it was Loser Lieberman who wouldn't agree to let a Medicare buy-in
NC_Nurse
Mar 2012
#74
that's your own hypothetical... why two million? Why not use a trillion as an example
fascisthunter
Mar 2012
#106
i chose 2 mill since that was a good equalent value in my mind when it comes to the likelyhood of
Bodhi BloodWave
Mar 2012
#121
The difference would have been that public option would have been more popular than mandate.
HiPointDem
Mar 2012
#88
50 Senate votes with the President of the Senate, Joe Biden, casting the tie breaker can pass it.
Better Believe It
Mar 2012
#95
It is true that at before the 110th Congress started, the rules could have been changed - but they
karynnj
Mar 2012
#101
Actually fake Republican procedural "filibusters" can be ended at anytime as can Senate rules.
Better Believe It
Mar 2012
#120
I agree that single payer is a far better alternative, but it is NOT the for profit motive that led
karynnj
Mar 2012
#119
The people who can get "health care" could care less about others in society
just1voice
Mar 2012
#117