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Jeff In Milwaukee

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62. This is an object lesson...

Wed Apr 30, 2014, 09:57 AM

Apr 2014

in the need for consumers of information (that would be all of us) to be finicky consumers of information. The Firedoglake story left my head spinning, and after a couple dozen clicks, I was able to get to the truth.

Of course, if you'd been faster in posting this summary, it would have saved me a hell of a lot of time.

TYPE FASTER, DAMN YOU!!!

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In the current SCOTUS Case, Obama is not out to get whistleblowers (Firedog is wrong) [View all] Godhumor Apr 2014 OP

Of course he's not.. but that doesn't stop the ignorance from Cha Apr 2014 #1

Thanks for doing the work on this BainsBane Apr 2014 #2

Glad to do it Godhumor Apr 2014 #3

As I noted in the other thread, Gosztola's agenda overwhelms the facts every time. Just see this stevenleser Apr 2014 #55

I read this in the other thread, too Godhumor Apr 2014 #57

This is an object lesson... Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2014 #62

Tell that to Thomas Drake. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2014 #4

Great analysis ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #5

I have 3 posts in the other thread. Godhumor Apr 2014 #7

Great ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #8

I will help keep this kicked.. thank you again, GH. Cha Apr 2014 #10

Thank you. brer cat Apr 2014 #6

But...but...RT says Obama is evil!! So FDL must be right!! jeff47 Apr 2014 #9

Thomas Drake, John Kiriakou, and Chelsea Manning think you're wrong, OnyxCollie Apr 2014 #11

completely irrelevant to this question Godhumor Apr 2014 #12

The title of your post is "Obama is not out to get whistleblowers" OnyxCollie Apr 2014 #13

I disagree but opinions vary Godhumor Apr 2014 #14

Drake's career was destroyed, and Kiriakou and Manning are in prison (35 years for Manning.) OnyxCollie Apr 2014 #16

The Obama DOJ did act shamefully with respect to Drake Vattel Apr 2014 #32

+1 dreamnightwind Apr 2014 #33

I thought the context made it clear Godhumor Apr 2014 #34

That helps, thanks dreamnightwind Apr 2014 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Apr 2014 #15

Source for what? I posted the links to everything I felt relevant Godhumor Apr 2014 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Apr 2014 #18

There was one blog Godhumor Apr 2014 #21

The position is stated in the Amicus Curiae: toddwv Apr 2014 #39

You have never heard of Scotusblog? BainsBane Apr 2014 #41

Wait a second...you are unaware of SCOTUS blog??? Really? nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #48

If its not in Common Dreams, FDL, or RT, most Obama critics dont know it exists, apparently. stevenleser Apr 2014 #54

My "top" tier of sites I won't give the time of day to are: Godhumor Apr 2014 #56

I thought everyone knew Scotusblog BainsBane Apr 2014 #65

When it comes to court cases, too, they can read the case itself treestar Apr 2014 #67

It shows peole aren't reading the actual cases . nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #72

Fer Cripes' sake... Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2014 #64

Excellent synopsis. Laelth Apr 2014 #79

where did you go? Firedogfail needs your support! snooper2 Apr 2014 #68

"These people". You are really trying to bait me arent you? Sorry, find someone else. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #75

Interesting that you went back and covered your tracks Egnever Apr 2014 #91

Yep. He and his pals were all in the other thread with the usual name calling and Dem bashing Number23 Apr 2014 #92

Oh did they scrub that one as well? Egnever Apr 2014 #93

If FDL is a joke, Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #19

This OP does not adhere to purism standards of DU Gman Apr 2014 #20

The documented facts disagree with you. Obnoxious_One Apr 2014 #22

Read the animus which is the sworn statement on behalf of the us government Godhumor Apr 2014 #25

I find the sworn statement to be the least untruthful thing I've heard in awhile... eom. Obnoxious_One Apr 2014 #26

good? Not sure if that is supposed to be least truthful Godhumor Apr 2014 #28

The animus brief says right in it that the US believes the actions taken against Ed Lane were wrong. Cha Apr 2014 #31

Try reading it first...You might change your mind Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2014 #69

Which documented facts? BainsBane Apr 2014 #42

You are absolutely correct that the FDL "reporting" was ridiculously bad. But Vattel Apr 2014 #23

And SCOTUS expressed skepticism at the US position Godhumor Apr 2014 #27

Me too. I hope they not only roll it back Vattel Apr 2014 #35

There is no question of a roll-back, I think Godhumor Apr 2014 #36

I agree that the Court will overturn the decision, and clarify the scope Vattel Apr 2014 #52

Doubt that will happen, personally Godhumor Apr 2014 #70

Ik, ik, but you can't blame me for wishin' Vattel Apr 2014 #71

of course not (on the wishing) Godhumor May 2014 #100

I concur. I like the ACLU's position. Laelth Apr 2014 #80

I saw that thread. Your writing is more factual than the article there. herding cats Apr 2014 #24

K&R nt pkdu Apr 2014 #29

Thanks mwyn8 Apr 2014 #30

K&R Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #38

K Cha Apr 2014 #40

I'm recing just because you stated your case so convincingly and so calmly Number23 Apr 2014 #43

Most people don't appear to bother reading the OP BainsBane Apr 2014 #44

Title readers. That was made obvious. nt Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #50

Long ago, I determined that critics of the Democratic Party and its leaders from the left are not stevenleser Apr 2014 #60

I just read something that tells me you're right on that point BainsBane Apr 2014 #63

challenging a narrative is always tricky Godhumor Apr 2014 #76

+ struggle4progress Apr 2014 #45

Thanks! n/t pnwmom Apr 2014 #46

K Cha Apr 2014 #47

Nice post, Hitler. msanthrope Apr 2014 #49

Thanks! Glad it held up on your reading Godhumor Apr 2014 #53

Nicely done. nt Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #51

Thanks for digging into this. I appreciate MineralMan Apr 2014 #58

Thanks for clarifying mcar Apr 2014 #59

You smart people.....you're so, you know....smart Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2014 #61

Why deal in facts when a good FUD fight is so tasty. Whisp Apr 2014 #66

You will be right there to vote? HangOnKids Apr 2014 #82

No I can't vote, and I should just shush because I'm not American? Whisp Apr 2014 #83

Oh Geez you going off again? HangOnKids Apr 2014 #85

Red faced are we? Whisp Apr 2014 #86

Perhaps you citing my limited experience HangOnKids Apr 2014 #88

Meh Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #89

K & R. n/t FSogol Apr 2014 #73

Thank you for taking the time to do this. We need facts and information on DU, not okaawhatever Apr 2014 #74

I've figured out the problem ... JoePhilly Apr 2014 #77

Especially when confronted with Truth n' Facts. That's when the real outrage starts up Whisp Apr 2014 #90

k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Apr 2014 #78

Thanks for the research. KnR to read later in full. nt Hekate Apr 2014 #81

K Cha Apr 2014 #84

thanks for the help on the kick Godhumor Apr 2014 #94

Kick and rec! zappaman Apr 2014 #87

K & R for the truth! nt okaawhatever Apr 2014 #95

Excellent. sagat May 2014 #96

A very nice synopsis davidpdx May 2014 #97

K Cha May 2014 #98

K Cha May 2014 #99

K&R... giftedgirl77 May 2014 #101

Kick Bobbie Jo May 2014 #102