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Wed Apr 30, 2014, 12:39 PM Apr 2014

Abortion not an Option in Popular Culture [View all]

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In the last several decades of popular culture (roughly since the mid-1980s), abortion is not an option for sympathetic characters. I am sure there are some contemporary exceptions, but in general I think that's a fair description.

A sympathetic character can consider abortion. But at the last minute she will come to her senses.

If Ellen Page's smart, independent, iconoclastic character in Juno wasn't going to get an abortion than who the hell ever would?

We had a five year soap opera in Secret Life of the American Teenager (was that what it was called?) about a 15 year old who had never even *dated* wrecking her life, and those of everyone in sight, by not even considering abortion as an option for her. (I watched some of it recently because the star was incredible in The Descendants as George Clooney's daughter.)

MTV does not have a show called "16 and NOT pregnant, and doing fine thank you very much."

Now, hilariously, some people claim that 16 And Pregnant discourages teen child-birth by showing what problems these girls face. Yeah, right... and JACKASS discourages riding a skateboard off a roof by showing how painful it is. Except that is not how the world works.

What if MTV had a show about young girls who find out they are pregnant under ridiculous circumstances to be pregnant and address the problem and it works out okay? Then those girls would be role models competing with the role models (if you're a sympathetic character on TV then you're a role model) of the 16 and pregnant girls.

It is the damnedest thing... on TV, when someone finds out they're pregnant then they are for sure going to have a baby. (Despite the fact that people on TV have sex indiscriminately and seemingly without contraception... which is odd, considering that they live in a world where abortion is not an option.)

Yet abortion is, in the ethos of TV land, something that should be available. Of course! Gotta be available... for some unconsidered, unseen class of dreadful people who would do something like that.


It is no surprise that abortion is always under attack (and will probably be rolled back more before advancing any).

Think where gay rights would be today if TV still had no gay characters. Imagine if TV dramas were all about people who politically favored gay rights though god knows THEY would never do anything like being gay and had never met anyone who would and any character who was gay would have to be written off the show as unsympathetic... but yea gay rights! Y'know... in the abstract.

Added on Edit: Neutrality can be condemnation and an attempt to avoid controversy is actually, itself, social engineering. Example: Back in the day, say a character hails a cab. The cab driver will be white. Why? Because the south would ban a movie that showed a black person operating in normal human society, whereas the rest of the country had no comparable objection to a white cab driver. So the correct business decision was to avoid controversy. But the product of that "neutrality" was the whole country seeing a New York or Chicago with a mysterious absence of black people, and that is itself a segregationist message. Similarly, on today's media world a sympathetic character does not condemn other people for having an abortion but there are not examples of sympathetic (good) characters doing so. So it does become, "We don't object to black people driving cabs, we just prefer to not show it because it upsets some of our viewers." The act of not upsetting some viewers is itself a statement.
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Good observation. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #1
I have long noticed this about television sitcoms Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #2
Erica Kane had one on All My Children in 1973. Brickbat Apr 2014 #3
Thanks. Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #6
Erica Kane is a great example of what we are discussing, because years later they reversed it. StevieM Apr 2014 #40
Roseanne me b zola Apr 2014 #7
Claire Underwood on House of Cards. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #31
Spenser For Hire hamsterjill Apr 2014 #33
Hollywood Cartoonist Apr 2014 #4
Nobody should dictate content, of course. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #16
I'm old enough to remember the outcry over "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" Coventina Apr 2014 #5
Abortion peaked right around Fast Times. Early 1980s. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #10
Agreed. Abortion is a moral & positive choice that liberates women, saves lives, & protects families PeaceNikki Apr 2014 #8
Exactly LittleGirl Apr 2014 #27
I have thought the same thing for a long time NV Whino Apr 2014 #9
TV series Parenthood ALBliberal Apr 2014 #11
Love that show LittleGirl Apr 2014 #32
Not a teen, but Gray's Anatomy covered it in prime time PeaceNikki Apr 2014 #12
You are absolutely correct. MicaelS Apr 2014 #13
Abortions aren't very pleasant for fiction or reality TV LittleBlue Apr 2014 #14
And apparently, many Americans are psychologically on the level of small children... nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #41
You just noticed this? LittleBlue Apr 2014 #44
Lucy Ewing (played by Charlene Tilton) had an abortion on "Dallas" in 1982. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #15
Around the same time as FAST TIMES (as discussed upthread) cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #19
Only one show comes to mind... skypilot Apr 2014 #17
Take notice, too, of pregnancy-test advertising. kentauros Apr 2014 #18
or depressed over a positive result. nt Ligyron Apr 2014 #25
I can understand not having that result in a commercial kentauros Apr 2014 #29
Part of that might be that people trying to get pregnant buy more tests. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #36
Okay, never thought of that point. kentauros Apr 2014 #37
Come to think of it, does/did anyone on the soaps ever have an abortion? since 1973? raccoon Apr 2014 #20
General Hospital Ghost of Tom Joad Apr 2014 #22
I just did a project on teen pregnancy arikara Apr 2014 #21
Nordic countries are so smart LittleGirl Apr 2014 #34
Maude volstork Apr 2014 #23
Thanks for posting this. hamsterjill Apr 2014 #39
You're welcome volstork May 2014 #45
Boy isn't that the truth! hamsterjill May 2014 #46
K & R SunSeeker Apr 2014 #24
Ever notice houses that the kids on Teen Mom live in and the cars that they drive? blueamy66 Apr 2014 #26
Great "conservative correctness" on the part of "liberal Hollywood". alp227 Apr 2014 #28
You're exactly right Ron Obvious Apr 2014 #30
I agree with you get the red out Apr 2014 #38
Reality TV isn't very "realistic" to me. hamsterjill Apr 2014 #35
DING DING DING! Cthulu, you're our grand prize winner! rocktivity Apr 2014 #42
thank you rocktivity angel823 Apr 2014 #43
Joan on Mad Men was given a referreral and chided for having an earlier abortion bettyellen May 2014 #47
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