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HomerRamone

(1,112 posts)
Thu May 1, 2014, 10:40 AM May 2014

Obama Says Critics Suffer "Lack Of Knowledge" Of Secret TPP Treaty [View all]

IF that were true, whose fault would it be? But it's NOT...

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/dave-johnson/55680/obama-says-critics-suffer-lack-of-knowledge-of-secret-tpp-treaty

the president said critics are uninformed and even believing “conspiracy theories.” He said people should “wait and see what’s in the agreement” before criticizing it. He also dismissed criticism because it “reflects lack of knowledge of what is going on in the negotiations.”

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The TPP talks are secret. There are a number of “advisors” (almost all are corporate representatives) who have access to what is being negotiated but the advisors are pledged to secrecy. The public is not a party to the negotiations, nor are our representatives in Congress.

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What we do know about TPP largely comes from leaks. And what has been leaked is cause for serious concern. Last year Wikileaks obtained the TPP chapter covering patents, copyrights, trademarks, industrial design and other “intellectual property.” This chapter was updated as of last August and may have improved since, but it is no “conspiracy theory” to be afraid of what was in the August version.

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The treaty will likely be rushed through Congress with a rigged “fast track” process that sets aside the constitutional responsibility of Congress to carefully consider and debate treaties. Fast track even sets aside the constitution’s requirement that two-thirds of the Senate agree. All of this occurs while corporations use their tremendous wealth and power to influence what the public and members of Congress understand about the treaty.

This is start to finish a process designed to cut democracy out of the equation.
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When did he say this and where? upaloopa May 2014 #1
The link is in the article (more than once) HomerRamone May 2014 #3
Do you have the exact question and answer? Why not post the primary source? nt msanthrope May 2014 #5
Why not do a little reading to answer your own questions--is this a doctoral dissertaion? nt HomerRamone May 2014 #8
im on a smartphone...can you post the whole question and msanthrope May 2014 #16
I hope another excerpt which is a quote doesn't violate DU rules HomerRamone May 2014 #18
thank you...i agree with the President... a lot of angst here on DU is msanthrope May 2014 #20
And after reading that discussion, I agree with those who disagreed with you there. Sorry. HomerRamone May 2014 #23
Indeed...agreeing with a poster who blamed the President for a law passed 16 msanthrope May 2014 #24
Misleading title if you read Krugman's article HomerRamone May 2014 #33
Um, what? You have Krugman's actual article in front of you, plain as day, but you msanthrope May 2014 #35
I'm done quibbling about sources, and it's not my fault you're not on an adequate device HomerRamone May 2014 #36
The quote is IN the article I posted--did you check? nt HomerRamone May 2014 #9
the official white house transcript is not a good enough source? Enrique May 2014 #10
Its an awesome source....but as im on a phone, can't scroll properly. this is a courtesy msanthrope May 2014 #15
OFFS L0oniX May 2014 #2
Obama something Syndrome? nt HomerRamone May 2014 #4
I predict a politicususa.com headline Enrique May 2014 #6
LOL Capt. Obvious May 2014 #19
Publish it and put the whole thing up on WhiteHouse.gov think May 2014 #7
Well Then - Stop The Coverup - Make All Negotiations Public cantbeserious May 2014 #11
Of course we do. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #12
Nice partner you got there, Barack. GeorgeGist May 2014 #13
One of the most disgusting men on the planet. merrily May 2014 #47
It's true that Brunei is part of the TPP. BUT... alp227 May 2014 #56
'Wait and see' our fait accompli? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #14
Yeah. Then we'll have to "look forward, not backwards". What weasel tactics. GoneFishin May 2014 #27
Does your experience tell you that seeing it before would make a difference? merrily May 2014 #45
Possibly. Not always. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #48
I never saw opposition mobilized during this administration as it was to Obamacare. merrily May 2014 #50
Shrug. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #52
The public can do plenty, but signing email petitions and calling their Rep are merrily May 2014 #57
There's an easy fix for that "Lack of knowledge" atreides1 May 2014 #17
He seems to sincerely think we should trust him. grasswire May 2014 #21
Our trust is irrelevant to TPP. merrily May 2014 #44
Two reasons to be against it: 1) It's secret and 2) The advisors are almost all corporate shills. Scuba May 2014 #22
"You don't know what's in it and I won't tell you so ... it's all your fault" FiveGoodMen May 2014 #25
he said his policies are republican from the '80s nationalize the fed May 2014 #28
His positions on surveillance and extra-judicial executions are republican from the '00s FiveGoodMen May 2014 #34
Republican from the '80s = I am Ronald Reagan Lasher May 2014 #64
We should wait until the agreement is all but passed before complaining LittleBlue May 2014 #26
I hope everything will turn out ok Ichingcarpenter May 2014 #31
RE: the politics of "hope" Maedhros May 2014 #46
A holding position, to keep the masses from truly rebelling. Ichingcarpenter May 2014 #55
and then we just need to shut the fuck up because palin or something frylock May 2014 #59
K & R GoneFishin May 2014 #29
It's a "Secret TPP Treaty" ... aggiesal May 2014 #30
"Obama says his is ‘most transparent administration' ever" tularetom May 2014 #32
Such awesome transparency, JEB May 2014 #37
Thanks, I needed that !!! SamKnause May 2014 #40
K & R. historylovr May 2014 #38
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie May 2014 #39
Why the secrecy, Mr. President? The government gets to keep secrets, citizens don't? merrily May 2014 #41
Since our government won't tell us what it's doing so we can be informed...Paging Edward Snowden! Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #42
So stop discussing it behind closed doors... truebrit71 May 2014 #43
Every trade agreement has been a failure since and including NAFTA . Why keep racing to the bottom ? geretogo May 2014 #49
"We had to destroy the village in order to save it" villager May 2014 #51
The classification language in the leaked docs says FOUR YEARS of waiting before release. pa28 May 2014 #53
Huh? colsohlibgal May 2014 #54
We also suffer a lack of knowledge about drone killings. JEB May 2014 #58
he's not even listening to himself anymore, is he? MisterP May 2014 #60
he oughta spend a couple of hours on liberal message boards. grasswire May 2014 #61
isn't that the whole point of interns since 1997? MisterP May 2014 #62
That is exactly what we have said. The corporatists sat down in another secret meeting and wrote jwirr May 2014 #63
Kick for the irony of the headline alone...... socialist_n_TN May 2014 #65
Come on down to smiling Barack's Used Car Lot. I see why the blood lust level reaction now, TheKentuckian May 2014 #66
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