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In reply to the discussion: I Have a Pledge to Make. Who Will Join Me? [View all]The Doctor.
(17,266 posts)Got it.
But then I never pledged not to do that. Sorry bub, but I'm going to point out when people are making shit up whether you like it or not. If they want 'civil discourse', then they should probably start by being honest.
I always begin civilly, but if the people that I'm dealing with don't want to have it that way, so be it. There is nothing uncivil in the OP, but many of the first responses to it were deliberate lies, mischaracterizations, or just plain ignorant.
If people don't want to be condescended to, they shouldn't act like children.
The reality here is that no matter what I said or how 'civil' I was, these people would still be dishonest about what I said. The only difference is that no one would be challenging them on it.
That's the same reason that our nation is a fucked up as it is. The media's dishonesty goes unchallenged as well. I do not tolerate dishonesty. If you don't like that fact, then put me on 'ignore' before you post something that is not honest.
I will point out that I have not accused the critics of lying, I have accused the dishonest of dishonesty and the ignorant of ignorance. To claim that I have 'accused the critics of lying' is also dishonest of you. Some Obama critics have certainly lied, but that doesn't make them all liars.
So are you saying that when someone is dishonest, I should refrain from pointing it out?