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32. The officer used poor judgement, really poor judgement

Thu May 1, 2014, 11:22 PM

May 2014

When the video starts we see the officer approaching a car that is already in motion. The officer says something to the driver, and the driver keeps driving forward. You can clearly see the driver is trying to flee, which as I said early is a crime. The officer starts to chase after the car, and both the car and the officer go out of view of the camera. What ever happens from here on out is a direct result of the OFFICER putting himself in danger. It was dumb and foolish to get so close to a moving vehicle, and the officer should have known that. Yes the teenager driving was also acting dumb and foolish, but we expect that from a teenager. We expect an officer, who is an adult, to exercise better judgement. And many judges and courts will not consider it self defense for a person or cop who puts himself in danger and then uses that as an excuse to use deadly force. Officers are supposed to be trained to deescalate a situation, not the other way around.

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Kentucky field party shooting: Teen Samantha Ramsey shot dead trying to avoid sobriety test [View all] damnedifIknow May 2014 OP

Because the chickenshit with the badge was afraid... CincyDem May 2014 #1

Well she could have hurt him with that car but... Jasana May 2014 #2

I could buy that if... CincyDem May 2014 #5

Yes but the cop put himself in the path of a moving vehicle npk May 2014 #11

A retired cops perspective. CincyDem May 2014 #19

I am not saying a cop should never have a situation arise where he has to use his firearm npk May 2014 #23

+1 Historic NY May 2014 #27

A highly appreciated comment. defacto7 May 2014 #37

It SHOULD be a point of pride! n/t bobGandolf May 2014 #78

"Seems to be a lost point of pride." KansDem May 2014 #79

Is it unmanly to be afraid of being hurt when someone is driving a car with you on the hood? JVS May 2014 #8

What kind of idiot jumps in front of moving vehicle and jumps on the hood of a moving car npk May 2014 #15

I'm sure her actions said to him... CincyDem May 2014 #28

What was he doing on the hood instead of on the ground, writing down her license plate? n/t pnwmom May 2014 #25

According to the article she either ran into him or he jumped onto the hood. JVS May 2014 #31

She was drunk; he was a sober cop, presumably. If he jumped on the hood on purpose, pnwmom May 2014 #33

Nope. Never A Better Option Than Shooting First ProfessorGAC May 2014 #94

"she should have womaned up" ? defacto7 May 2014 #41

what moron jumps on the hood of a car? someone ready to shoot and kill. nt seabeyond May 2014 #44

This is what happens with guns everywhere. Law enforcement is afraid too. they know everyone is kelliekat44 May 2014 #48

She was drunk and tried to run oneofthe99 May 2014 #3

Why would he stand in front of the car if that is what happened? emsimon33 May 2014 #113

It says he was on the hood of the car when he shot her oneofthe99 May 2014 #4

The question is why was he on the hood of her car? damnedifIknow May 2014 #6

You will respect my authority ? oneofthe99 May 2014 #9

It's not about finding out who she is. It's about keeping drunks off the road. JVS May 2014 #10

The easy solution to this is don't try to run from a sobriety check point oneofthe99 May 2014 #12

Yup. That would have been the smart thing to do. JVS May 2014 #13

I find it interesting that someone with an Al Sharpton avatar is making these posts Scootaloo May 2014 #81

He has a radio damnedifIknow May 2014 #14

If she wasn't stopping then she wasn't stopping with flashing lights behind her either oneofthe99 May 2014 #16

SMH!!! You can't know that npk May 2014 #46

All I have to go on is her actions of that night and a prior drunk driving conviction oneofthe99 May 2014 #49

Just to add some info npk May 2014 #57

It sure doesn't sound good for him oneofthe99 May 2014 #60

I just want to see a thorough and fair investigation npk May 2014 #66

Oh yeah right. Because someone who won't keep still with a cop in front of them is certainly... JVS May 2014 #17

Oh I get it damnedifIknow May 2014 #20

Yes, it is better to kill suspects. ohnoyoudidnt May 2014 #22

You have no idea whether this girl was "drunk" npk May 2014 #26

She had one already oneofthe99 May 2014 #40

Yes it explains that she was running because she knew her license was suspended npk May 2014 #53

You want to say she wasn't drinking that's fine , if she was this is what she was facing oneofthe99 May 2014 #58

Well lets carry the out to this conclusion TexasProgresive May 2014 #83

Hindsight's 20/20 Lancero May 2014 #24

we see the point he was at side of car, and she was moving forward slowly. he had time to jump on seabeyond May 2014 #47

Except for the tinny little fact that the car didn't drive toward him npk May 2014 #21

There are no tinny little facts like you say because it's off camera oneofthe99 May 2014 #29

The officer used poor judgement, really poor judgement npk May 2014 #32

He can legally chase the car and try to grab the wheel to stop it from fleeing oneofthe99 May 2014 #35

From the justice for Samantha Ramsey FB page damnedifIknow May 2014 #38

that is what it looks like. she was moving slowly. he was on side of car. he had to jump on hood seabeyond May 2014 #50

I haven't seen enough evidence to decide either way AnalystInParadise May 2014 #52

Right but I'd be checking it out damnedifIknow May 2014 #56

Or he could be a guy with an axe to grind AnalystInParadise May 2014 #59

Why would any sane person jump on a moving vehicle? Politicalboi May 2014 #65

fyi shooting out tires is movie shit, not as easy as it sounds. jumping on the hood of the car was dionysus May 2014 #77

I don't get this. Shooting tires: Herculean effort and near impossibility. Ed Suspicious May 2014 #104

i clearly stated the cop was dumber than the kid, and is therefore rightfully fucked by murdering dionysus May 2014 #105

You're fast. Check the edit. Sorry. Ed Suspicious May 2014 #106

no problem... i just happened to check DU before i started my next episode of a TV show... dionysus May 2014 #107

How did he end up on the hood? Open_n_Shut May 2014 #89

Always wonder what these cops think at night phil89 May 2014 #7

Sounds like that "field party" was a fucking mess with all sorts of drunk kids trying to Brickbat May 2014 #18

I wouldn't want to be driving on that road coming home from work oneofthe99 May 2014 #30

You're not much for civil rights are you? defacto7 May 2014 #55

good one oneofthe99 May 2014 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author defacto7 May 2014 #67

You know, after reading your posts again defacto7 May 2014 #69

I'm no cop defender oneofthe99 May 2014 #71

Okokokokok defacto7 May 2014 #74

lol oneofthe99 May 2014 #75

Yay cops. If they weren't there someone might have gotten hurt, or worse Ed Suspicious May 2014 #108

A cop cannot assume everyone leaving the field party was drunk npk May 2014 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author oneofthe99 May 2014 #39

I really dislike cops jollyreaper2112 May 2014 #34

Link to the deputy's statement: struggle4progress May 2014 #42

KSP Denies Request To Investigate Deadly Boone County Shooting Involving Deputy struggle4progress May 2014 #43

Maybe we should take guns away from cops (nt) The Straight Story May 2014 #45

Don't trust cops and expect to see more of this at toll booths Harmony Blue May 2014 #51

in the northeast, you *might* see a state trooper vehicle near a toll booth. the toll booths are not dionysus May 2014 #110

I am not going to look at the video, but why didn't he let her drive away, a get her later. He had lostincalifornia May 2014 #54

A high speed chase is maybe justified if they're in pursuit of a serial killer or a kidnapper Hippo_Tron May 2014 #73

Do serial killers or drunk drivers kill more people in an average year? Recursion May 2014 #80

A drunk driver in a high speed chase is even more likely to kill someone muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #86

This is way fucked up Go Vols May 2014 #61

Dashcam says: "I will mount your hood like a Falcon! If you don't stop, I will execute you. Done." Bonx May 2014 #62

Yup. He had to have made a conscious choice to toss himself at a moving vehicle there Scootaloo May 2014 #82

Never attract the attention of a cop Harmony Blue May 2014 #63

Well... linuxman May 2014 #68

Bless your heart Go Vols May 2014 #70

I'm glad you got that one figured out! defacto7 May 2014 #76

The reason cops keep getting away with murder is... GReedDiamond May 2014 #72

seems to me most everyone here already decided TorchTheWitch May 2014 #84

I love the smell of common sense in the morning MO_Moderate May 2014 #91

The passengers tell a different story Nevernose May 2014 #96

the video doesn't show what happened TorchTheWitch May 2014 #98

Wrong damnedifIknow May 2014 #100

If you can't even bother backing that up TorchTheWitch May 2014 #103

What a waste. Fucking cop murdered her. morningfog May 2014 #85

There are no good cops and they are ALL evil RandoLoodie May 2014 #87

How different would this conversation be, if pnwest May 2014 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author damnedifIknow May 2014 #90

More info damnedifIknow May 2014 #93

Yet another witness damnedifIknow May 2014 #99

I will never hold a cop responsible for failing to jump on the hood of a moving car, Ed Suspicious May 2014 #109

Yay, Cops! Iggo May 2014 #92

Well they sure put a stop to that menacing "drinking party". phil89 May 2014 #95

Fuckers. Iggo May 2014 #97

Based on the video, it is impossible that he got on their hood without jumping onto it Taitertots May 2014 #101

Why, in complete disregard of anything I have ever witnessed, was He alone? Half-Century Man May 2014 #102

Judge, jury, executioner ecstatic May 2014 #111

I agree! The police have gotten out of hand! emsimon33 May 2014 #112